2020 Models

We are STILL tossing idea's around for full retirement. I want a Mammoth 11.6, Ruthie is undecided and flips back and forth on all kinds of RV's. I guess it will happen when we finally decide to take the jump....lol.

Except the 2021s are supposed to have all kinds of new, updated stuff and...they will cost even more.

My ‘17 is totally obsolete... in the ‘19, the kitchen electric outlet and the outside grab handle are black instead of white, and the taillights have been rotated 90 degrees. ‘20 might bring new stickers or something, who knows?!
I guess mine was cool for a while...

That's hilarious burningman! But you are not obsolete, you are retro.

Has anyone seen the Adventurer 50th Anniversary Edition, and if so, do you like it? Or is it too modern for the woods?

Host brought out more solar, battery and inverter options this year in the Mammoth. Some of the floor plans changed in other models. I’ll be talking with Randall this weekend and see if I can disclose anything else.

Bedlam -- Here is the complete list from Randall. But these are all "options". The base camper itself has not changed.

• 3 different Off grid packages.
• lend a hand folding entry handle
• Nova Kool 12V 9.1 cubic ft refrigerator freezer
• deeper generator compartment ( to store portable Honda 2200)
• (qty 2) coax cables from service bay ( 1 to each TV) for portable sat dish
• (qty 2) 12 V charging stations ( one on each side of the bed

Nothing here would make a 2020 look any different your Mammoth. And there is nothing that does not entail additional cost. Most items I could do myself or pay someone less than the additional cost of the option, without throwing anything away, other than getting the updated refrigerator.

I think Randall created a great product, and it will continue to sell. But I think Host is adverse to change, whether due to their small size, the expense of change, or that they feel the product continues to be better than anyone else without change. But if you look at even the 2013 or 2014, there is really very little difference.

I may still buy a Mammoth, particularly if I do not care for the 2020 Eagle Cap. But likely it will be a 2018 if I can still find one. I noticed in an older post that you also waited for the next model year, and you ended up getting updated interior stains and fabrics. I am jealous. I wish Randall would give me something for waiting!

I like the updated exterior graphics since they complimented my truck color but would have preferred the older interior colors. A longer connection cord was something I wanted custom on my unit but it became a standard feature. I have a high amperage interconnect to my truck which I was originally going to have Host install, but ended up doing myself once I found a power block in the generator compartment. They still don’t offer a Torklift steps, but Shetptek now has an installation kit that wasn’t available when I did a custom bracket. Although Host does expedition vehicles based off the Mammoth, they were not willing to do flat bed version without cutouts under the wings - I had to build out that area with boxes mounted to the truck. Other items I was looking for was a relocation of the fresh water fill and a larger battery compartment. Neither were done so I tweaked my plans to make the existing work.

I would have some catching up to do with options (built in April of 2014) available now. Not sure what improvements are in the forecast except the obvious extra steps for entry. Maybe better gauges for tank levels? I think there are still more options out there that are not published.
Obviously, your reward for waiting is a personalized camper. It's not the easiest to modify after it's built. There are chases for electrical and plumbing that are concealed. I replaced my bath vent and saw the 120v. power veering to the plugs at the headboard. Moving my inverter behind the fireplace to the basement also revealed some routes to run additional electrical. I also heard that exterior decals can have color options but now we're into rumors-

If I do order a 2020, I will get almost a complete base model. I plan on adding as much solar as the roof will take, 6 or 8 lithium batteries, and a 3,000 watt inverter. This will allow me to run the air conditioner for as long as I would be away, to keep the dog alive, and allow me to get rid of the generator since noise is very bothersome to me. Randall's off grid packages seems compelling but he is doubling the price of the components for installation which I have the skills to complete myself. I also prefer the dinette over the sofa/adjustable table configuration since I will be working, and I am not that excited about a fireplace. I may even get an Everest, which I prefer other than the toilet next to the galley. But I might be okay with just a curtain in front of the toilet.

We will see what Eagle Cap comes up with in 2020. I personally like a modern look. If Randall would just change those so 2010 countertops in the kitchen and bathroom, I would be all over Host, but that is not happening, and it is an expensive thing to do myself.

Comparing 2020 model prices to holdovers is not differnet than comparing new to used....it’s all about wants vs needs and how much you’re willing to pay for either or both.
It’s nothing surprising, and being a retired bean counter I’m sure you’re wringing out the pennies like wet laundry.....as you (we all) should.
Good luck in your camper search!