3.5L V6 of 5.0L V8

2112 wrote:

Maury82 wrote:
From what I've read about towing trailers with the HDPP, although it has a slightly reduce towing rating, they of course have a roughly 500lbs more payload and it tows it's rated weight better than the Max Trailer tow alone due to an extra leaf spring and other enhancements.

Do you know what the "other enhancements" are?

Maury82 wrote:
From what I've read about towing trailers with the HDPP, although it has a slightly reduce towing rating, they of course have a roughly 500lbs more payload and it tows it's rated weight better than the Max Trailer tow alone due to an extra leaf spring and other enhancements.

Maury82 wrote:

Maury82 wrote:

2112 wrote:
My previous TT was 2'shorter and 1000lb lighter than yours. It was white knuckle driving at times with my F150. The engine wouldn't matter. The truck is too light for that trailer. You need a heavier tow vehicle to keep from being pushed and pulled around by that trailer. Being passed by 18 wheelers at highway speeds and sidewinds were a nightmare.

My shorter FW of the same weight tows so much better

This same type of response is what was so annoying when I was lurking and trying to learn about tow vehicles.

This unknown year 1/2 ton, unknown tow ratings, unknown payload, unknown information regarding whether you were well within your limits of this mysterious and insufficient 1/2 to truck is meaningless to me.

What is up with these testimonials of these mysterious, insufficient and unknown ratings and capacity 1/2 trucks.

To me, this doesn't say anything about the 1/2 ton truck and it's limitations, but it points to you for picking the wrong 1/2 ton, or capacity truck for your trailer.

In addition, you never answered her question.

Samsonsworld wrote:

IdaD wrote:

alexleblanc wrote:


no amount of "beefing" up will compensate for the 1/2 ton being lighter will lower duty brakes - been there, done that and know how it ends.

For what its worth I daily drove my F250 for 4 years and day drive my F350 now and other than riding a little rougher than my F150 its no harder to park or live with than my crew cab, 6.5 box F150 was. Heck the F250 and F350 use less fuel both towing and not towing than the F150 did.

This has been my experience too, with the one additional caveat that height can be an issue in some parking garages. Other than height and a little stiffer ride I don't see many disadvantages to a newer HD truck over a comparably configured half ton, but I sure see a lot of advantages.

The F150's are capable trucks but there are definitely advantages to the HD. There are also a lot more people that move up, then move down. The stiffer chassis and better brakes are spot on. You may not notice the brakes with no emergency stops...but it'll happen sooner or later. I've stood on the F150, felt a weird vibration through the brake pedal and kept rolling (Had at least 10k lbs on the truck at the time between trailer and passengers). Took the trailer off and the brakes were normal. I also think you end up over using your trailer brakes with a half ton and they will fade on you. My F250 shuts the TT down fast in comparison. That alone was worth the upgrade imo.

carringb wrote:
Newer F150 brakes are larger that the SuperDuty brakes up until 2005

Maury82 wrote:

2112 wrote:
My previous TT was 2'shorter and 1000lb lighter than yours. It was white knuckle driving at times with my F150. The engine wouldn't matter. The truck is too light for that trailer. You need a heavier tow vehicle to keep from being pushed and pulled around by that trailer. Being passed by 18 wheelers at highway speeds and sidewinds were a nightmare.

My shorter FW of the same weight tows so much better

This same type of response is what was so annoying when I was lurking and trying to learn about tow vehicles.

This unknown year 1/2 ton, unknown tow ratings, unknown payload, unknown information regarding whether you were well within your limits of this mysterious and insufficient 1/2 to truck is meaningless to me.

What is up with these testimonials of these mysterious, insufficient and unknown ratings and capacity 1/2 trucks.

To me, this doesn't say anything about the 1/2 ton truck and it's limitations, but it points to you for picking the wrong 1/2 ton, or capacity truck for your trailer.

In addition, you never answered her question.

2112 wrote:
My previous TT was 2'shorter and 1000lb lighter than yours. It was white knuckle driving at times with my F150. The engine wouldn't matter. The truck is too light for that trailer. You need a heavier tow vehicle to keep from being pushed and pulled around by that trailer. Being passed by 18 wheelers at highway speeds and sidewinds were a nightmare.

My shorter FW of the same weight tows so much better

ppine wrote:
If you want to tow heavy trailers, get a heavy truck.
My Dad tells me all the time that my one ton Ford is "overkill." I tow stuff all the time. I used the Ford as a daily driver for years. There is always room for things like camping equipment, building materials and 3 dogs. I don't see how anyone can have a normal life with a little truck with a 5 foot bed.