4 years 6.7Powerstroke update

alexleblanc wrote:

Geodude wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

Geodude wrote:
In Ontario, a pickup truck is defined as having a GVWR 6000 kgs and under, and at that weight there are no personal use exemptions of any kind, you're 100% commercial. The GM dually has a GVWR of just under 6,000 kgs so it hits all my numbers and I don't need a CVOR.

Bummer. Doesn't Ford offer different GVWR packages anymore? I know you used to be able to spec out a F350 at 2 or 3 different weight limits, even though there was zero mechanical difference, just to get around these types of arbitrary designations.

On another note, you lose headroom as you gain trim cost in a Ram? I never knew that... but then again I have a Tradesman!

A buddy told me Ford offers a derated F-350 DRW in the US but not in Canada. I did let Ford Canada HQ know that they lost a sale over that. At the price of these things you'd think every sale would count. :-)

On the Rams, I was told the higher trim models have higher seats to make room for the electric motors under the seat. I visited one local dealership and found they could have made the Ram's seat lower, even with the electric motor. The salesman said no problem we can remove the seat, cut out an inch of the seat mount, and boom, you have a lower seat. Yeah, great idea... He never did call me back on that plan!

if you pop onto the Ford.ca configurator you'll see that there's a 9900 GVWR downgrade option right there - still an option.

That wouldn't be for the dually tho, just the F-250 I would imagine. Maybe the F-350 SRW, but as I say, I didn't look.

Geodude wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

Geodude wrote:
In Ontario, a pickup truck is defined as having a GVWR 6000 kgs and under, and at that weight there are no personal use exemptions of any kind, you're 100% commercial. The GM dually has a GVWR of just under 6,000 kgs so it hits all my numbers and I don't need a CVOR.

Bummer. Doesn't Ford offer different GVWR packages anymore? I know you used to be able to spec out a F350 at 2 or 3 different weight limits, even though there was zero mechanical difference, just to get around these types of arbitrary designations.

On another note, you lose headroom as you gain trim cost in a Ram? I never knew that... but then again I have a Tradesman!

A buddy told me Ford offers a derated F-350 DRW in the US but not in Canada. I did let Ford Canada HQ know that they lost a sale over that. At the price of these things you'd think every sale would count. :-)

On the Rams, I was told the higher trim models have higher seats to make room for the electric motors under the seat. I visited one local dealership and found they could have made the Ram's seat lower, even with the electric motor. The salesman said no problem we can remove the seat, cut out an inch of the seat mount, and boom, you have a lower seat. Yeah, great idea... He never did call me back on that plan!

if you pop onto the Ford.ca configurator you'll see that there's a 9900 GVWR downgrade option right there - still an option.

shum02 wrote:

BurbMan wrote:

ACZL wrote:
Ford truck guy-- We are in same boat pretty much. Got ours in Dec of '14 and just over 37K.

Glad you guys haven't had any problems but if you really want to talk reliability, come back and post when there is a 1 and then a 2 in front of those mileage numbers.

If I so far can get 250K out of my IH 6.0L I'm pretty sure Ford's 6.7L will do just fine. Heck, looking at local used trucks in my area I see LOT's of 1st gen 6.7L trucks hitting well into that range already.

I saw 230K on a 6.doh. of course, that required three EGR coolers, a turbo, a pair of heads, and after all that, a replacement engine!

Well I can't speak from the point of view of a mechanical inspector, but as a consumer, MY experience has been the opposite. Diesel trucks have been FAR more reliable than their gas counterparts doing the same job.

As a contractor, I use my vehicles fairly hard. They are not just commuter cars or grocery getters, though they do that too. They carry and tow thousands of pounds daily, 6-7 days a week.

I've owned 6 diesels now since 1997, all were Fords, all were either 7.3 or 6.7 powerstrokes. None had any problems that weren't directly caused by my right foot and a healthy dose of extra HP.

The only extra cost I incurred owning diesels over gassers was the lure of easily gotten HP and TQ from a simple tune and some bolt on parts!

ford f350 drw only come in 14k gvwr, the f350 srw come in two gvwr versions.

I'm surprised with all the truck wars that GM has a lower gvwr, although smart on their part.

In Ma we have the same registration issue, they forced me into a commercial plate, but here they go by the amount of tires touching the road.

spoon059 wrote:

Geodude wrote:
In Ontario, a pickup truck is defined as having a GVWR 6000 kgs and under, and at that weight there are no personal use exemptions of any kind, you're 100% commercial. The GM dually has a GVWR of just under 6,000 kgs so it hits all my numbers and I don't need a CVOR.

Bummer. Doesn't Ford offer different GVWR packages anymore? I know you used to be able to spec out a F350 at 2 or 3 different weight limits, even though there was zero mechanical difference, just to get around these types of arbitrary designations.

On another note, you lose headroom as you gain trim cost in a Ram? I never knew that... but then again I have a Tradesman!

A buddy told me Ford offers a derated F-350 DRW in the US but not in Canada. I did let Ford Canada HQ know that they lost a sale over that. At the price of these things you'd think every sale would count. :-)

On the Rams, I was told the higher trim models have higher seats to make room for the electric motors under the seat. I visited one local dealership and found they could have made the Ram's seat lower, even with the electric motor. The salesman said no problem we can remove the seat, cut out an inch of the seat mount, and boom, you have a lower seat. Yeah, great idea... He never did call me back on that plan!

Geodude wrote:
In Ontario, a pickup truck is defined as having a GVWR 6000 kgs and under, and at that weight there are no personal use exemptions of any kind, you're 100% commercial. The GM dually has a GVWR of just under 6,000 kgs so it hits all my numbers and I don't need a CVOR.

Bummer. Doesn't Ford offer different GVWR packages anymore? I know you used to be able to spec out a F350 at 2 or 3 different weight limits, even though there was zero mechanical difference, just to get around these types of arbitrary designations.

On another note, you lose headroom as you gain trim cost in a Ram? I never knew that... but then again I have a Tradesman!

blofgren wrote:

Geodude wrote:
We traded our 2011 F-350 6.7 in early February. We bought it new in the fall of 2010, so it was an early build. Me, the early adopter.

As my wife said, the truck spent 7 years working hard for us, towing a heavy trailer and it didn't hiccup once. We sold it because the extended warranty had run out and those early builds had 3-4 things that would stood a higher chance of eventually going badly wrong vs. later 6.7s.

Shum, I coulda sold it to you for a great price! ;-)

Curious why you made the jump to a GM if you were happy with your Ford, especially with an all new Super Duty now available.

Our 2011 Ford was overloaded by at least 400 pounds, more on some trips, so we wanted to gain some of that back and be on the right side of our numbers.

Despite the use of aluminium in the new Fords, the payload on any of the trucks we looked at was actually less than on our 2011. We wanted an 8' box to get the biggest fuel tank possible. When we realized the Ford SRW didn't have the payload we started looking at various solutions.

The Ram SRW trucks had the payload I need but I only had enough headroom in the lower trim lines. The new Ford dually has a GVWR over 6,000 kgs and that would means it would be subject to the Commercial Vehicle Operator Registration program here in Ontario and having to maintain trip logs and do daily inspections. In Ontario, a pickup truck is defined as having a GVWR 6000 kgs and under, and at that weight there are no personal use exemptions of any kind, you're 100% commercial. The GM dually has a GVWR of just under 6,000 kgs so it hits all my numbers and I don't need a CVOR.

Geodude wrote:
We traded our 2011 F-350 6.7 in early February. We bought it new in the fall of 2010, so it was an early build. Me, the early adopter.

As my wife said, the truck spent 7 years working hard for us, towing a heavy trailer and it didn't hiccup once. We sold it because the extended warranty had run out and those early builds had 3-4 things that would stood a higher chance of eventually going badly wrong vs. later 6.7s.

Shum, I coulda sold it to you for a great price! ;-)

Curious why you made the jump to a GM if you were happy with your Ford, especially with an all new Super Duty now available.

We traded our 2011 F-350 6.7 in early February. We bought it new in the fall of 2010, so it was an early build. Me, the early adopter.

As my wife said, the truck spent 7 years working hard for us, towing a heavy trailer and it didn't hiccup once. We sold it because the extended warranty had run out and those early builds had 3-4 things that would stood a higher chance of eventually going badly wrong vs. later 6.7s.

Shum, I coulda sold it to you for a great price! ;-)