Anyone towing with their 2.7 Ecoboost F150?

Lessmore -remember once upon a time(right after they were invented?) when engines all were 20 to 30 litres?
they been getting smaller ever since.
It will be fine -gas/air in - power out ,get rid of the heat and its all good.

Lessmore wrote:
I just can't wrap my head around 2.7 liters...about 165 cubic inches...in a truck, pulling 1000's of pounds of trailer.

I know, it's turbocharged. I wonder how hard it would run, in the Rockies, with it's full tow rating...or maybe more (as some people are bound to do) weight.

After a full towing schedule, let's say for the first 5-10 years of it's life...what shape will it be in...for second hand buyers, down the road ?

I'm sure Ford engineers checked all these things out, beforehand.

It's just me....wondering about small engines...doing big work.

I hear you, but you have to take the truck in the context of its intended purpose -- in that light, I think the 2.7 may be a home run. I don't think many will buy this truck to tow heavy all of the time. It strikes me as an excellent option for someone who tows a boat or mid-sized trailer a few times a year, and otherwise uses it for commuting and other light duty use.

Often, on RVnet, people get caught up in the usual life of full timers or heavy use RV'ers. In reality, the majority of 1/2 ton trucks don't work that hard. There are a dozen 1/2 ton trucks on my block that probably haven't had anything hooked up to them more than once or twice a year for their entire life.

Seems if the truck has a blue oval on the grille, there are those on here that automatically deem that there is something wrong with the truck. The 2.7 is so new that no one has any practical experience with it. Come on guys, don't condemn it before there and any user reviews for it.

Hybridhunter wrote:

All of the sudden 325hp and 365ft/lbs torque, (more power than Dmaxes had till 2006), with more gears, in a lighter truck is not enough to tow anything heavy. Krikey.
The lack of deductive reasoning on this forum leaves me gobsmacked at every visit.

Hybridhunter is back on the forum? Krikey.

I was going to reply to this, but I do not have enough deductive reasoning.

Hybridhunter wrote:

Kampfirekid wrote:
Look on YouTube for the test of all of the manufacture 1/2 tons with gas engines. The 2.7L Ecoboost beats them all in the 1/8 mile, followed by the 3.5L Ecoboost. When the 2.7L doesnt, its because it cant keep it's wheels from breaking loose an laying rubber 1/2 way down the track. Unbelieveably impressive. It has guts and power in a Supercrew. I'll pass as I tow 10k, but if I needed a daily driver and could get it in a loaded King Ranch an tow a 6500# travel trailer 12X a year, I'd not hesitate a bit.

All of the sudden 325hp and 365ft/lbs torque, (more power than Dmaxes had till 2006), with more gears, in a lighter truck is not enough to tow anything heavy. Krikey.
The lack of deductive reasoning on this forum leaves me gobsmacked at every visit.
There's another thread talking about an overweight 240hp truck, and urban legends already been made up about how competent it is.

There's also frame strength and brakes and tire weight ratings to be considered, not just power.

Please ignore

As a daily driver and a tow vehicle for 7k 12x a year, I'd do it is a second. Problems are...my trailer is close to 10k for now, the tongue weight is not 1/2 ton friendly, the 2.7L EcoBoost is only available on 2WD trucks according to Build and Price, and I like the upper trim level trucks and it's not available on those. After watching the 2.7L easily walk away from all other gas trucks at the strip and pull 10k (over its rating) up Davis Dam and smoke the EcoDiesel and the GM V-8's, I'd have no reservations. It's about compromise. I don't need to be first to the next light. Just be comfortable, and have some practicality if possible. I'm trying so hard to stay away from getting a second vehicle for a daily driver, and if the 2.7L was available in what I need, I'd get one and downsize my trailer weights. None of the EcoBoost engines are probably up to the task of working at Max GVWR or GCWR daily for 300,00 miles, but that's not what it's designed for. It's for the weekend warrior, daily commuter, and 10x a season trailer dragger. They offer great fuel economy in a 5,500# truck for daily use, and pull the snot out if it when needed. Use for what it's designed for, it will be a WINNER.

Lessmore wrote:
I just can't wrap my head around 2.7 liters...about 165 cubic inches...in a truck, pulling 1000's of pounds of trailer.

I know, it's turbocharged. I wonder how hard it would run, in the Rockies, with it's full tow rating...or maybe more (as some people are bound to do) weight.

After a full towing schedule, let's say for the first 5-10 years of it's life...what shape will it be in...for second hand buyers, down the road ?

I'm sure Ford engineers checked all these things out, beforehand.

It's just me....wondering about small engines...doing big work.

The "big blocks" of the day didn't fair too well in the long run either... But, it's all relative.. ;)

Dad's 1971 F250 with the 390 in it needed to be replaced at about 125,000 miles around 1983 or so, not because it blew up or anything, but it was just plain wore out.. He had to replace that engine recently because it had a cracked block, and it only had about 25,000 'easy' miles on it, not towing much of anything after it was "retired" from towing duties around 1989..

My 97 F150 with a 5.4 went over 255,000 miles and was still running strong when I got the 13 F150. Towed a lot of miles with it too.

My 13 3.5 Eco walks all over that old 5.4 and does it pulling a lot LESS rpms while going MORE mph pulling the same TT up the same 5-6% grades..

Would I get the 2.7 Eco over the 3.5 Eco? Probably not.. But, by the time the 13 gets as old as my 97 did before I traded it, it'll be around 2030, so they probably won't even be using internal combustion engines by then... :)

Mitch

I towed up to 10,000lbs for years with my 1991 F250 and 7.5l engine rated for 390lb-ft and 230hp. Never had any trouble getting where I wanted to go. I think that another 100hp and a six speed transmission would do wonders for pulling.

"Horsepower can't be multiplied via gears to make torque" You have obviously never driven a tractor or had any technical training. Have you never noticed that your vehicles pull better in first gear than they do in fourth?

goducks10 wrote:

TomG2 wrote:
Since the average F-150 is good for about 60% of the 11,500 pound rating, then the 2.7 should be good for about 60% of the 8,500 pound rating. Wonder what the payload numbers are like for a typical model?

So is the average 3/4-1 ton only good for about 60% of the rated tow rating also. That would mean I could only tow 7440lbs with my 12 Ram 2500 CTD. Not quite following the your logic.

Here they rate a F250 with a 6.7 diesel at 4.5 tonnes, or 9,900lb or 11,000lb with an uprated hitch Bit different from the manufacturers ratings but probably more realistic