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- KampfirekidExplorerAs usual, there are caveats. The 2.7L EcoBoost isn't available in upper trim trucks, so that'd break the deal for me. I'm seriously thinking about selling the 32BHDS and moving down in length and weight to allow us to move to an EcoBoost. While the weight of the 32BHDS Jay Flight doesn't scare me, the excessive tongue weight blows any hope of a 1/2 ton. The 2.7L I think is rated at over 8,000 tow, and the 3.5L over 12,000, but the cargo capacity for these 1/2 ton trucks still doesn't support the trailer capacity and a family for camping.
- HybridhunterExplorer
Bamaman1 wrote:
You'd be okay to tow a bass boat or a pop up camper. I'd be hesitant to go over 5000 lbs. with the 2.7.
They say it's quite a performer, however. Most people getting behind the wheel think it's a 3.5.
But when it comes to towing, torque is what matters and the bigger motor would be preferred for that use.
"torque" is what matters to those that don't understand power.
Horsepower can't be multiplied via gears to make torque, torque is a nothing number without knowing the rpm, 1000ftlb,s torque at 500rpm is pretty pathetic power output, sound impressive though, if you don't understand the definition of power. - HybridhunterExplorer
Kampfirekid wrote:
Look on YouTube for the test of all of the manufacture 1/2 tons with gas engines. The 2.7L Ecoboost beats them all in the 1/8 mile, followed by the 3.5L Ecoboost. When the 2.7L doesnt, its because it cant keep it's wheels from breaking loose an laying rubber 1/2 way down the track. Unbelieveably impressive. It has guts and power in a Supercrew. I'll pass as I tow 10k, but if I needed a daily driver and could get it in a loaded King Ranch an tow a 6500# travel trailer 12X a year, I'd not hesitate a bit.
All of the sudden 325hp and 365ft/lbs torque, (more power than Dmaxes had till 2006), with more gears, in a lighter truck is not enough to tow anything heavy. Krikey.
The lack of deductive reasoning on this forum leaves me gobsmacked at every visit.
There's another thread talking about an overweight 240hp truck, and urban legends already been made up about how competent it is. - KampfirekidExplorerLook on YouTube for the test of all of the manufacture 1/2 tons with gas engines. The 2.7L Ecoboost beats them all in the 1/8 mile, followed by the 3.5L Ecoboost. When the 2.7L doesnt, its because it cant keep it's wheels from breaking loose an laying rubber 1/2 way down the track. Unbelieveably impressive. It has guts and power in a Supercrew. I'll pass as I tow 10k, but if I needed a daily driver and could get it in a loaded King Ranch an tow a 6500# travel trailer 12X a year, I'd not hesitate a bit.
- brulazExplorer
Bamaman1 wrote:
You'd be okay to tow a bass boat or a pop up camper. I'd be hesitant to go over 5000 lbs. with the 2.7.
They say it's quite a performer, however. Most people getting behind the wheel think it's a 3.5.
But when it comes to towing, torque is what matters and the bigger motor would be preferred for that use.
Also, the torque peak (and HP) on the 2.7EB is 1000rpm higher than the 3.7EB (375lb-ft@3500rpm versus 420lb-ft@2500rpm).
Those operating characteristics are quite different, making the 2.7EB less "diesel-like" than the 3.5EB. - Bamaman11ExplorerYou'd be okay to tow a bass boat or a pop up camper. I'd be hesitant to go over 5000 lbs. with the 2.7.
They say it's quite a performer, however. Most people getting behind the wheel think it's a 3.5.
But when it comes to towing, torque is what matters and the bigger motor would be preferred for that use. - HybridhunterExplorer
goducks19 wrote:
Ok, gotcha. I agree on your F150 assessment though after towing 7300lbs with a 2010 F150. I just can't wrap my head around the idea of towing 8-8500lbs with an F150. Let alone the advertised 11-12,000lbs. Yikes.
If the last F150 towing experience was in an 2010I would agree with you. Times have changed, and many ex duramax owners have commented the ecoboost trucks tow similar to early duramax's.
There is a towing review on consumer reports, reviewer owns a hemi, and noted the 2.7 was an effortless beast for towing. I would be there would be no issue at max towing, and unlike certain trucks, the F150 has the available payload to to tow at 100% of it's rating, with payload to spare. - brulazExplorer
Lessmore wrote:
I just can't wrap my head around 2.7 liters...about 165 cubic inches...in a truck, pulling 1000's of pounds of trailer.
I know, it's turbocharged. I wonder how hard it would run, in the Rockies, with it's full tow rating...or maybe more (as some people are bound to do) weight.
After a full towing schedule, let's say for the first 5-10 years of it's life...what shape will it be in...for second hand buyers, down the road ?
I'm sure Ford engineers checked all these things out, beforehand.
It's just me....wondering about small engines...doing big work.
Same thing was said about the 3.5L EcoB back in 2011. Still is in fact. :)
The 3.5L is holding up pretty well and the 2.7L is rated substantially less for payload and towing.
There may be issues with older, heavily used 3.5L EcoBs, but I'm not sure if they're any more than with other heavily used engines.
Time will tell I guess. - LessmoreExplorer III just can't wrap my head around 2.7 liters...about 165 cubic inches...in a truck, pulling 1000's of pounds of trailer.
I know, it's turbocharged. I wonder how hard it would run, in the Rockies, with it's full tow rating...or maybe more (as some people are bound to do) weight.
After a full towing schedule, let's say for the first 5-10 years of it's life...what shape will it be in...for second hand buyers, down the road ?
I'm sure Ford engineers checked all these things out, beforehand.
It's just me....wondering about small engines...doing big work. - goducks10Explorer
TomG2 wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
So is the average 3/4-1 ton only good for about 60% of the rated tow rating also. That would mean I could only tow 7440lbs with my 12 Ram 2500 CTD. Not quite following your logic.
I was just using proportions. I don't happen to think that typical F-150's as found on the dealer's lots are good for towing much more than 7,000 pounds. All of this is just conjecture until we see some real world weights and experiences. I have owned F-150's, don't have any idea what your Ram is good for.
Ok, gotcha. I agree on your F150 assessment though after towing 7300lbs with a 2010 F150. I just can't wrap my head around the idea of towing 8-8500lbs with an F150. Let alone the advertised 11-12,000lbs. Yikes.
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