Neither of those names in Idyllwild sound familiar...I'd bet that Marriott sold it years ago. Trees!, lots of trees! No flat parking lot stuff for us, either. Our very BFF and his DW pay $60+ per night to park on asphalt with no hookups or MAYBE water only. This bargain gives them a VIEW of the ocean, but cannot get there from the "campground". I don't think so.
He came to visit a couple of years ago and we went to our fav CG only 45 minutes from home. We had our hybrid and when we woke up the next morning he had unzipped the bunkends and was watching the birds, enjoying the huge trees, the peace.....all for $14 a night....because we're old folks. $16 a night if you're not. We rarely pay over $25 and that's full hookups. I've been to the beach, for $60 a night, I don't need any more beach. BTW, no shade at the beach, but they do have some shrubbery looking things here and there around the sites. Nice.
