California sr 87 -Traffic ticket!

Not holier than thou. Simply taking credit for our own actions.

If and when I speed (yes I have sped and will speed again), I accept that I am making a choice to do so. If/when I get a ticket for speeding, I don't whine that the officer was being unfair, doing it for the money, etc. I say "darn, I was speeding and got caught". If by chance I get off with a warning, I don't gloat that i'm special, I thank my lucky stars that I got away without a ticket.

Nothing holy about me, I just accept responsibility for my choices and decisions.

Boy we've surely got a lot of holier than thou's on this thread.

If you're speeding you're speeding. If you're moving in and out of your lane, you're moving in and out of your lane.

You do those things and you get a ticket, you have only one person to blame - yourself.

Yes, if the officer (and officer) sees that there are extenuating circumstances then they have the option of giving you a warning only. The warning IS the option - the ticket is the standard. If you don't have extenuating circumstances, then why wouldn't they ticket you.

As for your situation, you were exceeding the legal limit when there was no extenuating circumstances to do so. Of course the officer cited you - YOU WERE SPEEDING.

RZAR66 wrote:

fpoole wrote:
Yah, I avoid Calif at all costs..

I wish there were more people like you.

More like you please makes my camping and travel so much less crowded!!!!!!!!

If it is hwy 89 no reason to cut lanes pretty nice road to drive a little windy but plenty of room.

toedtoes wrote:

zb39 wrote:

More To See wrote:
I'd love to be behind all the hard nose "stay between the lines" responders when they come up behind some bicycles out on a mountain road.

I'll bet none would follow along for miles at 5 miles an hour instead of just violating the yellow lines and sweeping on past at a somewhat safe location.

Sometimes you gotta use a little common sense.

X2

The OP made no mention of having to pass any cyclists. Of course, that would change opinions - it most likely would not have resulted in being cited by the CHP either as long as it was done safely.

x3 on the bicycle scenario.
So what your saying here is the law is only the law as the CHP sees it? I have no idea what, how much or how many times the OP crossed the line but this logic doesn't work for me. It would appear the OP crossed the line safely if there was not an accident. It's sort of like a ticket I got in Oregon back when the speed limit was 55. It was 3:00 AM not a car on the road and I was doing 65 "safely". The officer had the discretion of citing me, warning me or not stopping me at all but apparently had nothing better to do. The Oregon State Police is sort of like the CHP in that if they stop you your getting a ticket.

CAJW wrote:
I can't feel sorry for a "ribbon cutter" as they're called, getting busted. Being a lifelong motorcycle rider, I've often wanted to be able to write a citation that cost 10X what yours was as I've had friends run off the road (and injured) by folks that can't keep their rig under control. Sorry, no sympathy here.....

Agreed.

I find it funny that someone crosses the line, gets a ticket, then complains about it by whining on a forum.

ALso agree with the previous post about staying between the lines, like you were taught in Kindergarten when coloring with crayons.

More To See wrote:
I'd love to be behind all the hard nose "stay between the lines" responders when they come up behind some bicycles out on a mountain road.

I'll bet none would follow along for miles at 5 miles an hour instead of just violating the yellow lines and sweeping on past at a somewhat safe location.

Sometimes you gotta use a little common sense.

Apples and oranges. If you cross the yellow line while passing an obstruction it's not a problem provided you yield to any oncoming traffic.
Actually, PA has a law that you must allow 4' clearance while passing a bicycle. In this instance, the bicycle could be considered an obstruction and the law in such case is-

PA Title 75 Chapter 33, RULES OF THE ROAD IN GENERAL wrote:
3301. Driving on right side of roadway.
(a) General rule.--Upon all roadways of sufficient width, a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway except as follows:
(1) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction where permitted by the rules governing such movement.
(2) When an obstruction exists making it necessary to drive to the left of the center of the roadway, provided the driver yields the right-of-way to all vehicles traveling in the proper direction upon the unobstructed portion of the roadway within such distance as to constitute a hazard.

This thread falls into the same category when someone complains about getting a speeding ticket. One simple question. "Were you speeding?" Or in this case, "Did you cross the yellow line without needing to do so to avoid an obstacle?"

More To See wrote:
I'd love to be behind all the hard nose "stay between the lines" responders when they come up behind some bicycles out on a mountain road.

I'll bet none would follow along for miles at 5 miles an hour instead of just violating the yellow lines and sweeping on past at a somewhat safe location.

Sometimes you gotta use a little common sense.

And by using common sense, I would think that the hard nosers are not talking about exceptions. All sorts of reasons to cross over the line.

More To See wrote:
I'd love to be behind all the hard nose "stay between the lines" responders when they come up behind some bicycles out on a mountain road.

I'll bet none would follow along for miles at 5 miles an hour instead of just violating the yellow lines and sweeping on past at a somewhat safe location.

Sometimes you gotta use a little common sense.

Or maybe a rock was falling off the mountain, or there was a patch of ice he was avoiding, or an asteroid was coming straight at him? It's not germane to the discussion. He cut the line, and in the opinion of the CHP, it was serious enough to issue a citation. I'm sure the officer was using common sense.

zb39 wrote:

More To See wrote:
I'd love to be behind all the hard nose "stay between the lines" responders when they come up behind some bicycles out on a mountain road.

I'll bet none would follow along for miles at 5 miles an hour instead of just violating the yellow lines and sweeping on past at a somewhat safe location.

Sometimes you gotta use a little common sense.

X2

The OP made no mention of having to pass any cyclists. Of course, that would change opinions - it most likely would not have resulted in being cited by the CHP either as long as it was done safely.