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Mike3
Explorer
Jul 06, 2014

COG Questions

New to TCs and researching my first purchase. I've recently read about COG and I have seen it measured in numbers such as .54 etc. does the mean the center of gravity is 4" in front of the rear axle?

Also some camper floors are at bed rail height others are at the wheel well height and smaller units the TC floor sits on the truck bed.

I understand the higher floor from the truck bed the more storage but what are the downsides to a TC with the floor above the bed rails?

Thanks folks, I'm taking advantage of your knowledge in my TC research.

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  • 3_tons's avatar
    3_tons
    Explorer III
    Just a point of order here. TC's with a basement typically have a dedicated heating duct to the basement, this for cold weather camping. Also its a good idea to make sure that the dump valves are contained within the heated basement and not outside the heated area.

    My basement duct was a very restrictive accordion 2" which (per remote thermometer measurements) did almost nothing to prevent freezing. I kept it in place but ran a separate new 4" duct with a shutoff valve...after taking temp measurements the basement now stays within 5-10deg of interior temps...
  • The TC world refers to the front to rear balance point of the TC as the Center of gravity (CG).

    The higher the floor level, typically the more top heavy the TC. The higher the floor level, typically the greater the winds effect on the TC, especially side winds. From what I have observed, a North to South bed typically requires a raised floor. Typically, an East to West bed is a non-basement.

    To my knowledge, TCs with slides must have a basement to allow the slide to go out. Usually puts the floor at bed rail height, some may be at wheel well height.

    To accommodate larger water tanks, holding tanks, and/or a North/South bed, a basement is usually required. I believe approximately wheel well height is the most common.

    Although it is true smaller units the TC floor sits on the truck bed, it is also true of larger TCs, especially older large TCs. To my knowledge, none have slides, and usually have smaller water and holding tanks than basement TCs. My TC is a 11.5 foot TC, definitely not small. It is a non-basement TC, and sits flat on the floor. It is carried on my 2WD truck, and from ground to highest point is 10'3". On the same truck, a basement model would be at least 12-inches to 24-inches taller.

    The downsides to a TC with the floor above the bed rails depend on your camping style and preferences. In my opinion, the taller the TC the greater the need for a dually, for stability. Not a must, but more stable. The higher the TC,the greater the wind will affect driveability, especially side winds. The higher the floor from the ground, the taller the step required to get in the TC. The taller the TC, the more attentive you must be to avoid Tree limbs. In my opinion, the basement TCs are more vulnerable to water line and tank freezing than non-basement TCs.

    Wayne
  • Actually, I believe Lance's recent brochures state "Center of Gravity is measured from the front of the truck bed towards the back."
  • To make it confusing different brands measure COG differently. Most measure from the front of the camper back. Lance for one measures from the back of the truck bed forward. Most pick-ups have a CA (cab to axle) legth of 54 inches. Cab and chassis trucks have a 60 inch CA. So, a camper with a COG of 54 or less if measured from the front will have the COG right over the rear axle.
    Raising the floor gets you more floor space but a taller more top heavy camper. It also increases the ceiling height in the bed area and reduces the step height to get in the bed.