coleman mach1 & honda2000 update

sign man wrote:
Thanks alot for all your support, i purchased model# 48207c966
I turned on all 3 stove top burners, fired up the wall heater, thermostat inside only went to 90degrees but i'm sure it was well over a 100 in there. fired up the ac in eco and it would cycle on as off as needed. so would this be a sufficient desert type test?

No, I think it is a question of the temperature outside, where the compressor/condenser are working.

Reddog1 wrote:
It would be of great benefit if posters would state if their information is actual experience, or theory. Personally, I appreciate theory, but the fact is it may or may not be true in real life application.

So far, I see two posts that use the Honda 2000 to run the Coleman Mach 1 model# 48207c966. Both say they work well together, based on true life experience. For me, that trumps theory, although theory may suggest it is borderline.

Wayne

I ran a 13.5 off my H2K but it was only moderately warm weather at 600 feet. I haven't tried it in real hot weather, or at altitude. That was the basis for my comment that his 11K will probably run okay.

Here in the dry desert, I'd be fine with a swamp cooler instead of an A/C. I don't have A/C in my house, just swamp cooling, and the cooler does fine, even in August, which is the more humid 'monsoon' season here.

I always thought, when I had my camper and (very rarely) ran the A/C, that I could easily get away with a swamp cooler instead, which requires much less electricity to run and is lighter and not as tall on top of the roof.

Years ago, campers had small roof mounted swamp coolers, instead of roof A/C. Does anyone still make RV rooftop swamp coolers?

OK, for real life experience I've got a newer duo-therm 13.5K that I can run at 90F at sea level using my Honda eu2000i. I installed the SUPCO SPP6 to get it to work though. This draws a lot more power running than the Mach 1, so I don't think it's going to be a problem running the Mach 1 at any temperature.

However, to me it's not worth running the A/C off the generator. It's really noisy because the gen runs at full throttle. Add that to the already loud A/C fan and it's just not worth it. It also sucks gas and the small tank on the generator only lasts a couple of hours. I did it once and never again. If I really needed it, I'd buy an eu2000i companion and do it that way. If I ever get a TC I'll probably just get one without A/C, but I realize my situation is unusual and most people won't agree.

Reddog1 wrote:
It would be of great benefit if posters would state if their information is actual experience, or theory. Personally, I appreciate theory, but the fact is it may or may not be true in real life application.

So far, I see two posts that use the Honda 2000 to run the Coleman Mach 1 model# 48207c966. Both say they work well together, based on true life experience. For me, that trumps theory, although theory may suggest it is borderline.

Wayne

Totaly agree , but the theory given by some saying its borderline is based on wrong #`s

To comment on conditions we wont be able to see for months though, if you use RVP`S test data
1025 watts at 95 f outside bringing inside temp to 67 f , = 9.5 amps
total - 6.6 of which is comp , thats lower than any polar cub ever made !
1260 watts at 120 f outside temp bringing inside to 72 f, then at full voltage of 120 the total amp would be about 10.5
Only 7.6 of that is relavent to a start amp increace ,and there is a built in three second delay btwn fan and comp start
More over since every one is very aware how a old cub with almost the same amp # `s and watt#`s will work with a honda I dont see why all the talk that it wont work
If SHABR66 has had a mach 1 ps for one and a half years , and Im very glad to hear of his experience , I have to say he probably has a model 48207b876 that has a tecumseh compressor and amp draw of 7.0 w/ total 9.9 in standard conditions, the just released model 48257c966 has a rechi compressor = 6.6 amp
If anyone can find a more suited AC to work with a honda I`m all ear`s
I wont be buying one now since its winter , but I will buy before winter AC prices go away
And I will post results based on real- life then as Im sure Sign man will
In the mean time it looks like one way to increace forum activity is to bring up AC usage even in the winter :)

It would be of great benefit if posters would state if their information is actual experience, or theory. Personally, I appreciate theory, but the fact is it may or may not be true in real life application.

So far, I see two posts that use the Honda 2000 to run the Coleman Mach 1 model# 48207c966. Both say they work well together, based on true life experience. For me, that trumps theory, although theory may suggest it is borderline.

Wayne

Thanks alot for all your support, i purchased model# 48207c966
I turned on all 3 stove top burners, fired up the wall heater, thermostat inside only went to 90degrees but i'm sure it was well over a 100 in there. fired up the ac in eco and it would cycle on as off as needed. so would this be a sufficient desert type test?

I have had this exact same setup for about a year and a half and have used it when it was 100 + outside without any issues.

Nevertheless, I think it will run it in hot weather. Maybe not in eco mode, you'll have to see. Be sure to post it when you get a chance to try it.

1stgenfarmboy wrote:
I stand corrected sir, at extreme outside temps the AC will pull 200-250 watts more than at 65*, sorry if I mislead anyone.

the blower motor will stay the same no mater the temp, the compressor is the culprit for the added amp draw.

looks like a 2000 is on the threshold of running or not a mach 1 in desert conditions.

16.7 max and 13.3 run is what im seeing on a 2000w Honda, is this correct.

That would be a demand of about 1400-1500 watts for the A/C. The 2000 watt generator should run it, but it won't run much else at the same time. Looks like a second generator would be needed, one for the A/C and one for everything else. Or, power the camper from a single Honda 3000 instead.

I used a much less expensive Generac 4000 and it powered my 13.5 Btu A/C, microwave and the rest of the camper. It is loud, but then again, so are all the dirt bikes, atv's, buggies and desert trucks that are used in the areas I camped in.