Composting or cassette toilet. Who gas one ?

travelnutz wrote:
Mike Up,

And just where do you think the septic tank flow goes when it flows out as new sewage comes in? The drainfield only about a foot under the ground surface of course. You are wrong about getting fined in most states, public forests, larger National or state parks as my sister's son worked for several decades in Michigan State Parks and then I Sleeping Bear Lakeshore National Park before retiring and He is the one who told us it was legal to do the dig and dump and replace properly and legally and even showed me the written law stating so.

I/we have in the past passed this info on to so mamy others and not one has ever said they had even been as much as hassled by any law inforcement, DRN, or Rangers. Try to convince somebody else as we know better!

Yes, we always but and use with the swing out dump spout and NEVER made any mess or spills and always flush the toilet until it's clean clear water. Always also use a disolving toilet chemical and shake the waste tank before dumping and everything that comes out is always liquid and not chunks. How fast you dump the waste tank into the toilet dictates any possibility of splashes. Do it right with the waste tank spout down the the toilet water level and you have zero problems or splashes! Never hear any gripes from people who do it right so some people msust be smarter than others!

As per usual, you are flaunting laws of the land and advising others incorrectly. I'm sure Mike knows what can and can't be done regarding his waste.

Here is a paragraph from the National Park service on disposal of human waste:
Human Excreta Disposal
The disposal of human excreta or waste is regulated by the federal Resource
Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA) and the Clean Water Act(16). These
regulations require human waste to be properly disposed to protect human
health. It is prohibited to dump waste on the ground, in surface waters, or in
a landfill. Proper disposal requires human waste to be disposed at an approved
wastewater treatment plant or approved on site wastewater system.

Now you can also tell others your views about waste oil disposal.:M

Mike Up, yes it is an elec. porta-potty. It's not a true cassette , I was thinking cassette as a general term for portable toilet.

Mike Up,

And just where do you think the septic tank flow goes when it flows out as new sewage comes in? The drainfield only about a foot under the ground surface of course. You are wrong about getting fined in most states, public forests, larger National or state parks as my sister's son worked for several decades in Michigan State Parks and then I Sleeping Bear Lakeshore National Park before retiring and He is the one who told us it was legal to do the dig and dump and replace properly and legally and even showed me the written law stating so.

I/we have in the past passed this info on to so mamy others and not one has ever said they had even been as much as hassled by any law inforcement, DRN, or Rangers. Try to convince somebody else as we know better!

Yes, we always but and use with the swing out dump spout and NEVER made any mess or spills and always flush the toilet until it's clean clear water. Always also use a disolving toilet chemical and shake the waste tank before dumping and everything that comes out is always liquid and not chunks. How fast you dump the waste tank into the toilet dictates any possibility of splashes. Do it right with the waste tank spout down the the toilet water level and you have zero problems or splashes! Never hear any gripes from people who do it right so some people msust be smarter than others!

bobndot wrote:
I have room for both. The 6 gal.floor lock-mounted cassette extends our stays at places where we do not have sewer hookups . We visit a lot of friends and use their property as a campsite, the 2nd cassette toilet works well and enables us to use a dump station a lot less often. Its a "Curve" cassette with electric (battery) flush.

That looks more like an electric flush porta potty more than a cassette toilet. Many Porta potties come with mounting gear.

travelnutz wrote:
Mike Up,

WOW! Are you sloppy or something?

Never, with an open pit, never a mess. With a bowl full of water, of course. If you say you don't create a mess, you're just kidding yourself because your blind and don't see what the next person using it will.;) I've been using porta potties for 15+ years, I don't need a lesson on how to use them, I usually give them. I also have a Thetford with a 5 gallon waste tank section. I've had all types and the thetford is the least messy with a swing out pipe and vent button. Most have just a cap with no vent, and pour out chugging like a milk gallon jug starved for air.

travelnutz wrote:
dig a hole 8+" deep a min of 100 yards from any campsite or private land and save the top soil separate, slowly dump the waste tank and let it drain, then refill the hole and replace the top soil just like it was when you got there.

Is even spelled out this very way in many of the state's DNR or Federal Land rules and regulations, Look it up! We use our RV's 12 months a year and we are in Michigan 10 of those months in our area, the U.P., or even in cold Canada. You are in NW Indiana which is only roughly 120 miles south of us.

Yeh, my Aunt and Uncle had 10 acres up in the U.P. out in the middle of nowhere with 2 permanently parked campers. Yep, anything goes there. My parents were really shocked.

Doing that here will get you a fine, a ticket, and maybe worse depending on the officer. That's illegal in most states, dumping blackwater anywhere, but a registered septic tank.

travelnutz wrote:
Why do we prefer the tall Porta Potti? 2. can use it in winter

That's when I do use mine.

travelnutz wrote:
National Park Ranger watch us dumping into a dug hole and approved what we had done.

Wow, guess he may have been out in the boonies where that's acceptable. Read above, do that Indiana and you'll have a bad day if you get caught.

travelnutz wrote:
May come as a surprise to you that all the animals do NOT use toilets as they go right on the surface of the ground anywhere and guess where the fish do theirs or the birds?

Yes, but we're not animals and conservation officers and DNR expect us not to act like them either.

Geesh!!!

Mike Up,

WOW! Are you sloppy or something? We have been using a tall 5 or 5.5 gallon waste tank Thedford Porta Potti now for over 30 years in all our RV's and have never once experienced and "splash back" or drops landing on the floor. Always take the nuts off on the bottom of the plastic or porcelain toilet and remove and plug/cap the fresh water supply tube. Works perfect always and dump in any normal toilet, pit toilet, or if a must in states where it's legal and most are, dig a hole 8+" deep a min of 100 yards from any campsite or private land and save the top soil separate, slowly dump the waste tank and let it drain, then refill the hole and replace the top soil just like it was when you got there. Is even spelled out this very way in many of the state's DNR or Federal Land rules and regulations, Look it up! We use our RV's 12 months a year and we are in Michigan 10 of those months in our area, the U.P., or even in cold Canada. You are in NW Indiana which is only roughly 120 miles south of us.

Why do we prefer the tall Porta Potti? 1. Wife is disabled and with a 4" high plywood platform under the portable toilet it's so much easier for her to use. 2. can use it in winter with cheap windshield washer cleaner which has way below zero antifreeze in it poured into the freshwater tank as it never freezes even in below zero temps when the heat is off and the waste tank full. only possible for it to have some slush if it's in 20 below zero temps for a long time. 3. Allows me to cap with a blade guillotine valve at the end of the sewer outlet and open both tank valves and thus have double the gray water holding.

The tall Porta Potti lasts 2-3 days for 2 of us using it 24/7 before full and 4-6 days if only at night.

So what's really the problem then?

BTW, when selling an RV, just put the still totally new virgin OEM toilet back in and take your gate valve off to use for your next RV. Also, never been refused for emptying our Porta Potti waste tank in any fuel station or restaurant bathroom when eating there and have even had National Park Ranger watch us dumping into a dug hole and approved what we had done. May come as a surprise to you that all the animals do NOT use toilets as they go right on the surface of the ground anywhere and guess where the fish do theirs or the birds?

Geesh!

CavemanCharlie wrote:
When winter camping I just use a port-potti in the bathroom and put a garbage bag in it.

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I sometimes camp at places that have vault toilets and my TT built in toilet is way, way, nicer then them. Some of the vault toilets are so primitive that I'm afraid some animal is going to attack me while I a setting there.

(Not likely I know but, you do have to open the door to the vault toilet slowly and look around before you barge into them. You never know what is in there. Skunk would be bad.)

Our club does an annual campout up outside of Prescott AZ. The vault toilets there have been Hideous...In the last 5 years, they had only been emptied once before we arrived. We can have 100+ people attend, and by the end of the weekend, I swear a Skunk would have smelled better. The wife and I bought a small porta-potty that we use now...I can't wait to get the trailer.

You know? When you really think about it... cassette toilet, composition toilet, or even port-a-potty ... all of them are just the adult version of this:

Click here

Do a Google Search on "Chamber Pot". The concept hasn't changed in the last 5 million years or so.

Mike Up wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

Lwiddis wrote:
I don't believe that RV toilets use that much fresh water...and even less if you "save" shower water and dish rinse water for toilet use. Additionally, where are you going to dispose of the cassette toilet material safely and legally?

yep, if you want to be primitive, just put garbage bags into a 5 gallon bucket and buy the seat.
bumpy

These work much better and don't smell, and easily disposeable. BUT they make going to the bathroom an expensive action.

Toilet and Refills






I only use these when it's to cold to use my water filled Porta Potty.

Ah, there you go.
also a model that fits on the receiver.
bumpy

I was happy to be rid of the cassette in the pop-up.
The regular RV throne provides one more degree of separation from the waste.
JMHO

Compost? I will pitch a tent and dig a hole first.