Confirmed 2021 RAM Cummins no CP4.2

otrfun wrote:
Absolutely no doubt Ram was seeing some kind of hit to their bottom line that convinced them to go back to the CP3. The cost per failure (under warranty) was dramatically higher with the CP4. It would make sense for Ram to switch back to the CP3---even if the failure rate for the CP3 and CP4 were the same.

Now that Chevy and Ram have both walked away from the CP4, it certainly leaves Ford in an interesting marketing position---especially with these CP4 class-action lawsuits still in the pipe-line. My guess Ford's too highly invested in the CP4--their bean counters have probably determined it's better to stay the course. Maybe Ford's counting on their brand loyal diesel customers to simply choose the 7.3 gasser (vs. a Chevy or Ram) when confronted with the CP4's bad press.

They got away with it on the 6.0. Some people will continue to buy them no matter how shitey they are.

Absolutely no doubt Ram was seeing some kind of hit to their bottom line that convinced them to go back to the CP3. The cost per failure (under warranty) was dramatically higher with the CP4. It would make sense for Ram to switch back to the CP3---even if the failure rate for the CP3 and CP4 were the same.

Now that Chevy and Ram have both walked away from the CP4, it certainly leaves Ford in an interesting marketing position---especially with these CP4 class-action lawsuits still in the pipe-line. My guess Ford's too highly invested in the CP4--their bean counters have probably determined it's better to stay the course. Maybe Ford's counting on their brand loyal diesel customers to simply choose the 7.3 gasser (vs. a Chevy or Ram) when confronted with the CP4's bad press.

Like I said in another thread.
Bring back the stone reliable pump, get the Powerline trans stuffed in there and idk why anyone would buy anything BUT a Ram for a diesel pickup!
Ram will have basically created the old analogy...a Cummins with an Allison on a super duty chassis.
5th gen chassis gives up nothing to the other 2 for strength and amenities, still has the best engine, combined now with the best IP and soon to have the best or at least as good as the others, transmission!

I'm happy with my '15 but this would put the Ram back on my list of diesel trucks. For the '19 or '20 model years, I'd have gone with Dmax.

Flashman wrote:
Well it looks like only Ford is sticking with the CP4.2 - but no worries Ford stands behind their customers when the pump fails - right?

Yeah... As far behind as possible :d

Great news! Wanted to pull the trigger on a new 2020 Cummins a few months ago, but hesitated because of the CP4. Probably pull the trigger on a new CP3-equipped 2021 when the year-end incentives come back on-line late next year.

Flashman wrote:
Well it looks like only Ford is sticking with the CP4.2 - but no worries Ford stands behind their customers when the pump fails - right?

LOL! At least they've gotten the full repair cost down to only around $8k!

Well it looks like only Ford is sticking with the CP4.2 - but no worries Ford stands behind their customers when the pump fails - right?