Diesel Brothers

campigloo wrote:
My 12 ram is deleted because I got tired of going to the shop every 2 months to get the egr cleaned. It’s chipped just enough to keep the computer from throwing a code. I’ve never seen black smoke from my tailpipe. I know some gets out but I’m sure it’s nominal. For those proclaiming my vehicle should be stolen by the government and I should also fined, I think you should do your part and quit towing trailers or using truck campers or driving motor homes because even you are contributing to the very thing you’re complaining about.

I think if the GUVMENT requirez uz to have all this equipment on our trucks they should maintainz it.

campigloo wrote:
My 12 ram is deleted because I got tired of going to the shop every 2 months to get the egr cleaned. It’s chipped just enough to keep the computer from throwing a code. I’ve never seen black smoke from my tailpipe. I know some gets out but I’m sure it’s nominal. For those proclaiming my vehicle should be stolen by the government and I should also fined, I think you should do your part and quit towing trailers or using truck campers or driving motor homes because even you are contributing to the very thing you’re complaining about.

Maybe wrong, maybe right. 2012 is Tier 4 which essentially means no visible particulates emitted from the tail pipe. Once you did the 'delete' you violated the Federal Clean Air Standard for your vehicle so you assume all liability and conversely, the resale value has dropped as well. You may pass it off to another owner but if it don't pass emissions testing down the road, or the next owner is subject to the opacity test and fails, the liability comes right back on you as the 'deleter'. How it works, like it or not.

My 2007 7.3 is a Tier 2 engine. I blows minimal particulates but because it's a Tier 2 emissions engine, that is acceptable. Yours however is not.

Getting tired of isn't getting it repaired correctly. You took the easy way out, nothing more.

I have no sympathy for these guys... they knew their stuff wouldn't pass emissions testing, but sold it for road use anyway. Cuz "off road only" would have reduced their sales.

campigloo wrote:
My 12 ram is deleted because I got tired of going to the shop every 2 months to get the egr cleaned. It’s chipped just enough to keep the computer from throwing a code. I’ve never seen black smoke from my tailpipe. I know some gets out but I’m sure it’s nominal. For those proclaiming my vehicle should be stolen by the government and I should also fined, I think you should do your part and quit towing trailers or using truck campers or driving motor homes because even you are contributing to the very thing you’re complaining about.

Sorry to wizz on your oatmeal. If you need to take the truck in that often there is something wrong with the truck, or more likely because the shop didn't fix, you are not using it like it was designed. You think you need this big engine to do what you do, fine. But if you do, you should be the one to pay the cost, not the rest of the world.
As to the thought I should stop towing; I tow, but I bought what I need to tow, and do it with a box stock vehicle.
Somebody driving a 30 YO Toyota back and forth to their job. If LEO thinks to much smoke, that poor mother has to fix or replace.

campigloo wrote:
My 12 ram is deleted because I got tired of going to the shop every 2 months to get the egr cleaned. It’s chipped just enough to keep the computer from throwing a code. I’ve never seen black smoke from my tailpipe. I know some gets out but I’m sure it’s nominal. For those proclaiming my vehicle should be stolen by the government and I should also fined, I think you should do your part and quit towing trailers or using truck campers or driving motor homes because even you are contributing to the very thing you’re complaining about.

It doesn't matter how "chipped" it is. The power level of a deleted truck is not what would throw a check engine light.

My 12 ram is deleted because I got tired of going to the shop every 2 months to get the egr cleaned. It’s chipped just enough to keep the computer from throwing a code. I’ve never seen black smoke from my tailpipe. I know some gets out but I’m sure it’s nominal. For those proclaiming my vehicle should be stolen by the government and I should also fined, I think you should do your part and quit towing trailers or using truck campers or driving motor homes because even you are contributing to the very thing you’re complaining about.

Good to read these scofflaws are being held accountable.

Like the lights, all about accountability and common sense. If I was LE, I'd be wailing through ticket books nailing inconsiderate people with illegal 'off road use' only light bars running them on public streets and highways.

Far as exhaust opacity concerning diesel engines is concerned, the Federal Department of Transportation already has guidelines and regulations in place as well as testing equipment for big trucks that can be used for pickup trucks as well.

Really simple equipment that measure ambient light transmission through the exhaust stream of an engine. The test sequences is as follows... The sensing modules are set up parallel to the exhaust and the operator is instructed to throttle up the engine to maximum governed speed (floor the fuel pedal) and the exhaust stream is measured for visible particulates (smoke) and those tests are compared to the Tier requirement for that particular build year (because not every diesel engine on the road today is a Tier 4 final engine). If the measured visible particulate output is above the requirement for that build year, the operator / owner has to bring the vehicle into compliance and at the official's decision if the vehicle has to be repaired on the spot or if the owner or operator can drive away and get it repaired at another location.

Besides getting cited for non compliance, you get a hefty fine.

How it works and the test can be administered anywhere, weigh station, rest stop or in a truck stop for that matter... anywhere. The equipment is completely portable and does not require specialized training, IOW, anyone can administer the test.

I'm not a tree hugger but stupid is still stupid.

Last week there was a local news article about the EPA fining three companies in the Inland NW. Two in Idaho, one in Spokane:

EPA fines Spokane Valley, Hayden companies for allegedly violating Clean Air Act

Alligator performance has been one of the bigger diesel truck performance vendors. They moved to Idaho from Nevada back in 2013 or so.

Another similar company down near Boise completely shut down operations within the last 2 years. I don't know if the EPA came after them or what.

"I have a set of KC Daylighters as well for those 'stubborn' idiots."

Hmm, so now you have two idiots who can't see where they're going. Maybe not the best solution.