Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Well I sure as he!! would hope a 5.0 V8 diesel would "smoke" a 3.0 V6 diesel :R As for Ford it should "smoke" the 2.7 EB and as you stated run with or outrun the 3.5 EB.
Not sure why people can't or won't understand, the Ecodiesel was not intended for towing a heavy RV. It was meant for fuel economy and towing a small RV or a boat. Nothing more, there are a few guys over at the Ecodiesel site that say they are pulling 32' RV's in the 9,000# range that is about 1800# over it's rating. I sure as heck would not do it, weight should not be an issue but 32' of RV is to much for any standard half ton truck or any sUV IMO.
I can tell you first hand my Ram Ecodiesel is no slug off the line like a few members would like people to believe. For the first four gears it out ran a F-150 EB but then he walked by right by me after that LOL.
Don
There is no way Nissan or Toyota will be able to offer 500 plus foot pounds, and a payload capacity of 2k or higher and call it a .5 ton. Its not going to happen. The specs of the Cummins are very close to the specs of the LB7 Duramax. That power was wrapped in a HD pickup. I don't see how they can now harness that kind of power in a half ton pickup and expect it to hold up, unless they have electronically restrained it to the point light duty running gear can hold it. Then your paying for power you cant even use. I suspect the payload of these Cummins half tons will be around 1100 pounds. It will be hard to justify low twenties mpg, true half ton capacity, and pay the upcosts for the diesel.
The Ecodiesel is about 6 miles per gallon short of being where a half ton needs to be to make the dollars work. I think the greatest success for Nissan and Toyota would be in a midpowered 2500-3500 pickup. Offer it for 45-50K nicely loaded and they would sell. Now the mpg, capacity and money make sense together.