Diesel vs gas......................
OK folks, there have been a few to many diesel vs gas threads that have shall we say gone to "Hell and a hand basket"! So if all of you would put in you BEST, no flaming reasons for going gas vs diese...
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Rich & Marty,
The only highway miles we'd give a diesel tow vehicle before we retire would be 3-4 weeks a year on vacation towing and sight-seeing, plus maybe taking it on an otherwise useless freeway trip of an hour or so ever other weekend. We'd do the latter anyway just to keep the seals lubricated if we don't need to replace one of our existing vehicles, and store the tow vehicle with our RV.
The difference between Rich's school bus and Marty's Navistar vs. a 2005-2009 diesel dually is emissions control. School bus diesels are exempt from the emissions control laws and so don't got 'em. Marty's Navistar pre-dates emissions control. Even Ford & Dodge 2005-2006 diesel trucks in the 250/350 - 2500/3500 series have some emissions controls. It's horrid for Dodge Rams with of the 2007 - present model years, and for the 2011-on model Fords & GM's. You should compare apples to apples, oranges to oranges, and diesel engines with emissions controls to diesel engines with emissions controls.
It's less hassle, and will be about $9000 cheaper, to get a V-10 gasser before we retire. Against that we have to weigh the inconvenience of not being able to RV to Mesa Verde and Yellowstone before we retire. I won't try to tow an RV with a gasser above 4000 - 5000 feet save maybe coming and going every other year through Donner Pass on the way to Utah.
Marty, we'll start RVing in the spring or early summer of 2012, and plan to retire in the summer of either 2016 or 2017. That's the longest we'd have a gasser. It will be traded in for a diesel dually whe we retire.
The only highway miles we'd give a diesel tow vehicle before we retire would be 3-4 weeks a year on vacation towing and sight-seeing, plus maybe taking it on an otherwise useless freeway trip of an hour or so ever other weekend. We'd do the latter anyway just to keep the seals lubricated if we don't need to replace one of our existing vehicles, and store the tow vehicle with our RV.
The difference between Rich's school bus and Marty's Navistar vs. a 2005-2009 diesel dually is emissions control. School bus diesels are exempt from the emissions control laws and so don't got 'em. Marty's Navistar pre-dates emissions control. Even Ford & Dodge 2005-2006 diesel trucks in the 250/350 - 2500/3500 series have some emissions controls. It's horrid for Dodge Rams with of the 2007 - present model years, and for the 2011-on model Fords & GM's. You should compare apples to apples, oranges to oranges, and diesel engines with emissions controls to diesel engines with emissions controls.
It's less hassle, and will be about $9000 cheaper, to get a V-10 gasser before we retire. Against that we have to weigh the inconvenience of not being able to RV to Mesa Verde and Yellowstone before we retire. I won't try to tow an RV with a gasser above 4000 - 5000 feet save maybe coming and going every other year through Donner Pass on the way to Utah.
Marty, we'll start RVing in the spring or early summer of 2012, and plan to retire in the summer of either 2016 or 2017. That's the longest we'd have a gasser. It will be traded in for a diesel dually whe we retire.
