Diesel vs gas......................
OK folks, there have been a few to many diesel vs gas threads that have shall we say gone to "Hell and a hand basket"! So if all of you would put in you BEST, no flaming reasons for going gas vs diese...
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At slow speeds, it is torque multiplication, at higher speeds, HP wins. At the end of the day, it is having the correct ratio for HOW you use the vehicle/tool/truck etc. If you only need to drive at speeds up to 50 mph, but pull 30-40% grades, you need a different drive train spec than a person that is traveling on interstates at speeds upwards of say 70 mph, and only goes up 15% grades. The two might also need to look at different fuels based on miles driven in a given year, cost to run said rig based on miles driven, will there be a payback? and if so how long will it take in either miles or months/years? Some like myself, a few others I know are equal, they drive them till the wheels fall off. One will not get enough out of a diesel vs gas if the thing does not have compression, tranny is shot, springs are worn out, bed is crunched from rocks being loaded in etc. Either will net if you are lucky the cost of the metal in the truck. OK, so diesel wins a bit as that engine is 300-400 lbs heavier, so what, maybe and additional $30-50?!?!?
There is not in the end a right or wrong answer as to which rig is best. If one can get a td as we could when this thread started for 2000-2500 more, diesel was .10-.20 less than a gal of gas.....one could pay off the additional cost etc in 60-80K miles, which for me is 2-3 yrs, not a bad ROI frankly. Today said 8G difference with diesel running .10-.20 some places near me it is .40 more for diesel, it might take 10-15 yrs and some 300-400K miles to literally pay off the difference, if I can at all, the additional cost of a diesel. For me, the only place a diesel will make sense, is if I am over 6K feet elevation a lot, of which I am not. Most of my towing is literally less than 1000' in elevation. mostly under 500-600' down to sea level.
How you use your rig is how you should spec it. otherwise, you may very well be paying more than you should etc. There is NO right or wrong answer at the end of the day frankly. Same is which tires, tread, brand etc to use. Which color, brand rig, style of motor, ie 6 cyl or V motor.
Marty
There is not in the end a right or wrong answer as to which rig is best. If one can get a td as we could when this thread started for 2000-2500 more, diesel was .10-.20 less than a gal of gas.....one could pay off the additional cost etc in 60-80K miles, which for me is 2-3 yrs, not a bad ROI frankly. Today said 8G difference with diesel running .10-.20 some places near me it is .40 more for diesel, it might take 10-15 yrs and some 300-400K miles to literally pay off the difference, if I can at all, the additional cost of a diesel. For me, the only place a diesel will make sense, is if I am over 6K feet elevation a lot, of which I am not. Most of my towing is literally less than 1000' in elevation. mostly under 500-600' down to sea level.
How you use your rig is how you should spec it. otherwise, you may very well be paying more than you should etc. There is NO right or wrong answer at the end of the day frankly. Same is which tires, tread, brand etc to use. Which color, brand rig, style of motor, ie 6 cyl or V motor.
Marty
