Diesel vs gas......................

rerod wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

Carlo B wrote:
I just finished a trip form southern Ontario to Jasper Alberta through the USA pulling our Freedom Express 242RBS 3 adults lots of toys and the dog with a 2012 F150 Super Crew FX4 Ecoboost and this little truck makes the diesel vs gas a very difficult decision.
We averaged about 10 mpg US and handled head winds on the plains, mountain passes and everything we threw at it with ease. The truck gets a very consistent mid to high 20's mpg without the trailer.

The Eco-boost may be a strong point as it is a gas turbo, but diesel is still ahead in towing torque and mileage I tow almost twice what you are pulling and get 11.5 to 12 towing and 20 highway empty, and weigh 7,400# empty.

I'll agree that diesel is ahead in towing torque, for now. But the mileage is questionable compared to a gas turbo. This is fords first attempt with the 3.5 twin turbo. Remember how the first diesels ran? lol In fact, even the new diesels are still rattle buckets which your neighbors have grow to hate sunday mornings.

And what happens when more clean air regs catch up and diesel remains more expensive? $100 oil changes, fuel additive's, 3 fuel pumps, injectors.. When a pump or injector fail they can ruin the entire engine. No thanks.. I'll run a 8.1 or 6.8 gas for half the purchase price without ear plugs thank you. If the gas fuel pump fails it stops..

Well diesel is not needed for all towing, and they are not for everyone.
Just remember the gas went through the EPA issues about 20 years ago, good old run on etc. I don't think it will take diesel that long to get it right.
Gas users always complain about the standard maintenance, my old 460 used 7 qt. of oil every 3,000 miles, I now do 11 qt every 7,500 miles. I only have two fuel pumps, diesel in my area is currently 10 percent more than gas, and I get at least 50 percent better mileage towing than a 8.1 if not 100 percent towing the same load.

There are those that will always stick with what is "safe", but I had diesel before and did feel safe. The difference between gas and diesel pulling a load is night and day.
I will be one to say if you stay under about 8K for the trailer, a F150 EcoBoost will do great, but remember it is a Turbo gas engine, it will be interesting to see how well they hold up.
Part of the reason diesels last is they are burning a lubricant not a solvent!

You will see from time to time that posters that switch from a gas to diesel, and clearly see the towing difference.