Diesel vs gas......................
OK folks, there have been a few to many diesel vs gas threads that have shall we say gone to "Hell and a hand basket"! So if all of you would put in you BEST, no flaming reasons for going gas vs diese...
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spgtti wrote:transamz9 wrote:spgtti wrote:
Here's my 2 cents. In preparing to re-enter the RV world with a new 37' TT, I decided my '96 2500 12v Cummins lacked the space for my growing family of 4 + 70lb pup. So I sold it. I looked at both diesel and gas pickups with caps and 3/4 ton SUVs for the past year.
I have owned or been issued from work (9) 1 ton and 3/4 ton pick ups for the 24 years I've been driving in both gas and diesel from all 3 domestic manufacturers. I could care less about who made my truck as long as it is reliable and easy to work on when I need to.
I read all the forums until my eyes bled on the gas/diesel debate. I spent countless hours trying new calculations to figure the most cost effective and reliable vehicle that would fit our needs.
The only solid conclusion I could come to was that the EPA has ruined HD trucks as to their reliability(diesel)and tow ability(gas). The premium $ on pre '07 diesels is stupid high and newer gasser lack the displacement to do the job.
I have to disagree on one thing.The newer gas HD trucks will tow your tt pretty good. A lot better than you 12V Cummins did.
The reliability of the new diesels is still there they are just going to have to get the bugs worked out of them just like they did with the gas motors when the EPA hit them.
The aftermarket tuners are starting to get a hold on getting the new diesels running more efficient and cleaner and still getting good power gains in the meantime.
Imagine having 500 hp with all the EPA stuff still passing the tests and still running quiet with the factory exhaust. It's here!
I currently drive a 07 2500hd 2wd CC for work. It has a 6L gas burner, gets an average of 14mpg and is dog slow. Both my 12V's and my 7.3 Powerstroke would walk away from this thing @ 19mpg. My "new" TV is an 03 Yukon with an 8.1. It averages 13 mpg.
One more thing to consider is repair costs on the higher pressure injection systems and even worse catastrophic engine failures on the newer diesels. Nothing is even what I would consider reasonably priced for working class people anymore.
If your 12V and 7.3 was stock, the 6.0 LS motor in the chevy would run off and leave them both pulling the same load. It may see like a slow dog to you because it don't have any getty up and go untill around 4000 rpm. I know this engine pretty well. We have 2-2007's at work. One is a Classic and the other is new body. They are very tough engines.
