Diesel vs gas......................
OK folks, there have been a few to many diesel vs gas threads that have shall we say gone to "Hell and a hand basket"! So if all of you would put in you BEST, no flaming reasons for going gas vs diese...
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Bedlam wrote:
If ethanol was not so subsided by government programs, you would not see that price. It takes more energy to create ethanol than it produces and just keeps the corn and soybean farms in the black with the government kick backs.
Well that sounds cool, but ethanol subsidies were eliminated at the end of 2011. It was in all the papers. Even the Socialist news organization, National Public Radio, reported it.
https://www.npr.org/2012/01/03/144605485/congress-ends-era-of-ethanol-subsidies
As for taking more energy that Ethanol provides. Another false idea. A major study was done regarding this. For every BTU of energy to produce Ethanol, there is a net of 1.34 BTU of energy on the back end. In terms of liquid fuel alone, for every BTU of liquid fuel used to make ethanol, there is a net of 6.34 BTU of energy from ethanol. This 16 page report breaks it all down.
https://www1.eere.energy.gov/bioenergy/pdfs/energy_balance_of_corn_ethanol.pdf
Even regarding water... it takes almost as much water to produce a gallon of refined fuel as it does to make ethanol. And considerably less water than it takes to make many things we use in our daily lives.....
https://extension.illinois.edu/ethanol/wateruse.cfm
And even if it was subsidized to make, which it isn't, ethanol is still traded on the commodities exchanges just like gas, diesel, propane, etc and it is what the market says the price is that sets the price. The ethanol producers, corn growers, etc have nothing to do with it.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
