Dodge all in on electric too 500 mile range Ram

wapiticountry wrote:
And after I have connected to the main panel how do I string the wiring to the charging station? I don’t think laying it in the ground is acceptable. Burying the wiring gets very costly as the charging stations are likely to need to be located a distance away. Traversing that distance often involves crossing roads .landscaping and utility lines panels aren’t generally located in locations convenient to drive up to. Furthermore the panels generally are maxed out per NEC code powering the RV sites. Add power hungry charging stations would overload the main breaker which is not going to be popular with the guests watching TV, microwaving pop corn, and just enjoying the cool breezes from the air conditioners. If only things were as simple as people not involved in the project thinks it is.

Someone figured out to build an entire campground with buried electric, sewer, phone, water, asphalt, swim pool, front office, shower house and the rest.
And yet today with all the improved technology, tools and machinery is it that hard to pull a few wires?

wapiticountry wrote:

time2roll wrote:

wapiticountry wrote:

time2roll wrote:
When class A is built on an EV truck chassis will be when L3 will hit the campgrounds. Going to be a while.

In the mean time pop 2 to 6 four pole 30 amp breakers in the existing panel and let them charge. (for a fee)

What RV pedestal has spaces for additional breakers? And parking/charging their EVs away from their site is a no go for many people. At one of our parks we had a row of sites where the vehicle parking was across the driveway from the RV site. Some rope acted like that we were forcing them to park two towns away. Just foregoing the business is a better plan then dealing with all sorts of customer whining.

Yes the public is nuts.
We would call these SDR as in Sent Down the Road.

No slots in the pedestal. Connect at the main panel.

And after I have connected to the main panel how do I string the wiring to the charging station? I don’t think laying it in the ground is acceptable. Burying the wiring gets very costly as the charging stations are likely to need to be located a distance away. Traversing that distance often involves crossing roads .landscaping and utility lines panels aren’t generally located in locations convenient to drive up to. Furthermore the panels generally are maxed out per NEC code powering the RV sites. Add power hungry charging stations would overload the main breaker which is not going to be popular with the guests watching TV, microwaving pop corn, and just enjoying the cool breezes from the air conditioners. If only things were as simple as people not involved in the project thinks it is.

Well, certainly no one is mandating campground updates. Campground owners looking to attract more customers and provide and charge for more services will upgrade. Those who don’t want to or just provide a basic charge service on a power share type of operation will go that route. I’m sure most EV RV campers will be good with it either way. It’s not that hard.

time2roll wrote:

wapiticountry wrote:

time2roll wrote:
When class A is built on an EV truck chassis will be when L3 will hit the campgrounds. Going to be a while.

In the mean time pop 2 to 6 four pole 30 amp breakers in the existing panel and let them charge. (for a fee)

What RV pedestal has spaces for additional breakers? And parking/charging their EVs away from their site is a no go for many people. At one of our parks we had a row of sites where the vehicle parking was across the driveway from the RV site. Some rope acted like that we were forcing them to park two towns away. Just foregoing the business is a better plan then dealing with all sorts of customer whining.

Yes the public is nuts.
We would call these SDR as in Sent Down the Road.

No slots in the pedestal. Connect at the main panel.

And after I have connected to the main panel how do I string the wiring to the charging station? I don’t think laying it in the ground is acceptable. Burying the wiring gets very costly as the charging stations are likely to need to be located a distance away. Traversing that distance often involves crossing roads .landscaping and utility lines panels aren’t generally located in locations convenient to drive up to. Furthermore the panels generally are maxed out per NEC code powering the RV sites. Add power hungry charging stations would overload the main breaker which is not going to be popular with the guests watching TV, microwaving pop corn, and just enjoying the cool breezes from the air conditioners. If only things were as simple as people not involved in the project thinks it is.

wapiticountry wrote:

time2roll wrote:
When class A is built on an EV truck chassis will be when L3 will hit the campgrounds. Going to be a while.

In the mean time pop 2 to 6 four pole 30 amp breakers in the existing panel and let them charge. (for a fee)

What RV pedestal has spaces for additional breakers? And parking/charging their EVs away from their site is a no go for many people. At one of our parks we had a row of sites where the vehicle parking was across the driveway from the RV site. Some rope acted like that we were forcing them to park two towns away. Just foregoing the business is a better plan then dealing with all sorts of customer whining.

Yes the public is nuts.
We would call these SDR as in Sent Down the Road.

No slots in the pedestal. Connect at the main panel.

wapiticountry wrote:

time2roll wrote:
When class A is built on an EV truck chassis will be when L3 will hit the campgrounds. Going to be a while.

In the mean time pop 2 to 6 four pole 30 amp breakers in the existing panel and let them charge. (for a fee)

What RV pedestal has spaces for additional breakers? And parking/charging their EVs away from their site is a no go for many people. At one of our parks we had a row of sites where the vehicle parking was across the driveway from the RV site. Some rope acted like that we were forcing them to park two towns away. Just foregoing the business is a better plan then dealing with all sorts of customer whining.

I think that will be the approach of some campground owners. Just say no to charging at all. Nothing wrong with that. Businesses should be able to run their business the way they want. That will work for a few years but the client pool will of course get smaller and smaller and when they decide to sell 15 years down the road it will affect the resale. The crowd sourced charging and camping APPS will just flag these camp grounds appropriately and EV RVers will just choose somewhere else. And conversely will indicate those campgrounds that are EV friendly. It’s already happening.

It will sort itself out.

time2roll wrote:
When class A is built on an EV truck chassis will be when L3 will hit the campgrounds. Going to be a while.

In the mean time pop 2 to 6 four pole 30 amp breakers in the existing panel and let them charge. (for a fee)

What RV pedestal has spaces for additional breakers? And parking/charging their EVs away from their site is a no go for many people. At one of our parks we had a row of sites where the vehicle parking was across the driveway from the RV site. Some rope acted like that we were forcing them to park two towns away. Just foregoing the business is a better plan then dealing with all sorts of customer whining.

time2roll wrote:
When class A is built on an EV truck chassis will be when L3 will hit the campgrounds. Going to be a while.

In the mean time pop 2 to 6 four pole 30 amp breakers in the existing panel and let them charge. (for a fee)

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When class A is built on an EV truck chassis will be when L3 will hit the campgrounds. Going to be a while.

In the mean time pop 2 to 6 four pole 30 amp breakers in the existing panel and let them charge. (for a fee)

valhalla360 wrote:

Reisender wrote:
Interesting. I have never seen indication that KOA is getting into the L3 charging business. Is this something new they have announced?

I haven't gone into detail on what the new subsidy will pay for but you can bet the KOA folks have done the math and are pretty sure they can get the govt to pay for most or all of the main feed upgrade.

If they are replacing site pedestals (again with govt subsidy), that's even better.

Yah, could be. I’m not american so not up on the government program. I just haven’t seen anything on KOA installing fast chargers. Just doesn’t seem logical to me to have fast chargers in an RV park. Maybe a few 19 KW level 2 stations in a common parking area. But the 10 units on the pedestals should be more than adequate for most RVers.

Interesting.

Cheers.

Reisender wrote:
Interesting. I have never seen indication that KOA is getting into the L3 charging business. Is this something new they have announced?

I haven't gone into detail on what the new subsidy will pay for but you can bet the KOA folks have done the math and are pretty sure they can get the govt to pay for most or all of the main feed upgrade.

If they are replacing site pedestals (again with govt subsidy), that's even better.