Duramax bites the dust - Blown head gasket @ 102K miles

6dot6 wrote:

et2 wrote:

6dot6 wrote:
sucks to hear but sometimes things happen. your right we should have let gm go under because your truck broke. take this and learn from it. do an oil analysis on your vehicles more often in the future. in my opinion this could have been avoided with early detection in the tests. but just because your motor broke, doesn't mean all diesels are now garbage. don't spread stuff like that, better ways to go about telling potential/future owners of diesel trucks that maintenance is important. no offence, but maybe diesel wasn't a good choice for you personally.

I don't own a Duramax and probably never will. But honestly? What percentage of diesel truck owners out there do oil analysis?? I'd make a wild guess and say pretty much none of them. If my Cummins did this at 100,000 miles even though I maintained it by scheduled oil changes, etc. I'd have the same bad taste. So are the majority of diesel owners not getting oil analysis making bad decisions by buying a diesel? Just curious ... is it stated in the owners manual someplace that scheduled oil analysis is mandatory to engine longevity?

diesel as you know rely a lot on a properly fuel system. oil analysis in my opinion should be done on any vehicle. but with the cost of diesel parts and repair and such, when you purchase one you should already be aware of the price differences. if not, then perhaps a diesel isnt for that person. get your test run and get your injector balance rates done. need to be aware of how the truck is running. sorry didnt mean to be such a d$&k but its pointless to come blazing in with anti any brand rants because of an issue that comes up.

et2 wrote:

6dot6 wrote:
sucks to hear but sometimes things happen. your right we should have let gm go under because your truck broke. take this and learn from it. do an oil analysis on your vehicles more often in the future. in my opinion this could have been avoided with early detection in the tests. but just because your motor broke, doesn't mean all diesels are now garbage. don't spread stuff like that, better ways to go about telling potential/future owners of diesel trucks that maintenance is important. no offence, but maybe diesel wasn't a good choice for you personally.

I don't own a Duramax and probably never will. But honestly? What percentage of diesel truck owners out there do oil analysis?? I'd make a wild guess and say pretty much none of them. If my Cummins did this at 100,000 miles even though I maintained it by scheduled oil changes, etc. I'd have the same bad taste. So are the majority of diesel owners not getting oil analysis making bad decisions by buying a diesel? Just curious ... is it stated in the owners manual someplace that scheduled oil analysis is mandatory to engine longevity?

MOtrout wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

jerem0621 wrote:
OP... This is terrible! I am an advocate for Gassers simplicity, but realistically, gassers fail as well. I hope everything gets buttoned up and fixed right.

I'm not sure if there are any upgrades that you can do while the heads are off. I don't hear too much about Duramax's needing bulletproofed much.

Jeremiah

"Gassers simplicity?"

Yeah that's kinda funny? Diesels are way less complicated than modern gas engines now dsys. Even with all the fuel management systems on all modern diesels they are still simple. You just gotta get under the skin just like the gas engine.

MOtrout wrote:

Yeah that's kinda funny? Diesels are way less complicated than modern gas engines now dsys. Even with all the fuel management systems on all modern diesels they are still simple. You just gotta get under the skin just like the gas engine.

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

catfishmontana wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Sorry for your troubles. Best thing is to do some calling around and see who can get you the best price on a GM crate motor. No matter where you buy it the warranty will be the same. The GM and Ford engines are what they call throw away engines. Go to the dealer and they will tell you the same thing.

I would not buy a junk yard engine you will probably end up with the same problem.

That's funny because I'm under the impression that the 6.7 Cummins has forced more owners to throw away their EGR coolers/valves, turbos and DPF's. Then install a tuner to compensate for the lack of these items, and then paying the piper with a new head gasket job! :S

Very few of your "impressions" are ever close to reality. You just always feel the need to bash.

Just addressing your boy (Cummins24V98 another hate monger) comment! He makes a comment about throw away engines and gets a free pass. :R

Linky

OP,
I would take this topic to the Dieselplace and get some real feedback. :W

Good luck...

Funny I don't say a word about cummins ang get slammed. I was giving the op my opinion on what he should do. Fact is if he takes it to a GM dealer they won't repair it they will want to long block it because they won't warranty such a repair.

Sorry to twist a few of you with facts.

I had a 6.5 installed in my 86 c20 it developed a cracked block. They replaced the whole engine, actually 3 seperate times. I asked why not just replace the block, full replacenent is all GM would allow. I said cool.

Cummins,
My mother worked for a GM/Chrysler dealership for over 35 years and she pretty much handled all the warranty work/approvals during that period. I can tell you there was a many Cummins crate engine that came into that shop. During the first year the Duramax debuted GM didn't want any engine repairs done and required all engines (which wasn't much) with internal problems to be sent back to corporate for failure analysis so a crate engine was sent in for replacement. It's more involved when a dealer does a crate engine or performs the repairs than you indicate, but I'm not going into anymore detail than this, since your cummins koolaid has you fogged up!



This can't be true or some hearts will be broken. Never laugh at another fella's problems or ya know what can happen. Not saying you are but it does happen.
chevman
Enjoy another Koolaid! :B

Cummins12V98 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

catfishmontana wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Sorry for your troubles. Best thing is to do some calling around and see who can get you the best price on a GM crate motor. No matter where you buy it the warranty will be the same. The GM and Ford engines are what they call throw away engines. Go to the dealer and they will tell you the same thing.

I would not buy a junk yard engine you will probably end up with the same problem.

That's funny because I'm under the impression that the 6.7 Cummins has forced more owners to throw away their EGR coolers/valves, turbos and DPF's. Then install a tuner to compensate for the lack of these items, and then paying the piper with a new head gasket job! :S

Very few of your "impressions" are ever close to reality. You just always feel the need to bash.

Just addressing your boy (Cummins24V98 another hate monger) comment! He makes a comment about throw away engines and gets a free pass. :R

Linky

OP,
I would take this topic to the Dieselplace and get some real feedback. :W

Good luck...

Funny I don't say a word about cummins ang get slammed. I was giving the op my opinion on what he should do. Fact is if he takes it to a GM dealer they won't repair it they will want to long block it because they won't warranty such a repair.

Sorry to twist a few of you with facts.

I had a 6.5 installed in my 86 c20 it developed a cracked block. They replaced the whole engine, actually 3 seperate times. I asked why not just replace the block, full replacenent is all GM would allow. I said cool.

6dot6 wrote:
sucks to hear but sometimes things happen. your right we should have let gm go under because your truck broke. take this and learn from it. do an oil analysis on your vehicles more often in the future. in my opinion this could have been avoided with early detection in the tests. but just because your motor broke, doesn't mean all diesels are now garbage. don't spread stuff like that, better ways to go about telling potential/future owners of diesel trucks that maintenance is important. no offence, but maybe diesel wasn't a good choice for you personally.

FishOnOne wrote:



OP,
I would take this topic to the Dieselplace and get some real feedback. :W

Good luck...

Hannibal wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Sorry for your troubles. Best thing is to do some calling around and see who can get you the best price on a GM crate motor. No matter where you buy it the warranty will be the same. The GM and Ford engines are what they call throw away engines. Go to the dealer and they will tell you the same thing.

I would not buy a junk yard engine you will probably end up with the same problem.

Hate to break it to you but the little Cummins was known as a throw away engine long before the Neverstart and Dmax came along. Ford used the throw away Cummins decades ago in their medium duty trucks.