Engines to avoid on F-250?

But in the defense of the mighty 6.0no, they’re still the coolest sounding trucks on the road save for straight piped 5.9s and with the right knowledge a guy can have a fire breathing diesel in a great chassis at a serious discount with a 6.0.

jerem0621 wrote:

ksss wrote:

Edd505 wrote:
Find a low mileage 6.0 diesel, do the EGR delete and drive on. Towing 12K at 214K and still running strong.

Wow! There is some advice to flush. When two companies spend hundreds of millions to point fingers on who is responsible for the creation of likely the worst diesel engine to roll out of Detroit since the GM 5.7 diesel and when companies exist for the sole purpose of trying to "bullet proof" said diesel. That is called a clue. If you bought a new early 6.0 (and we did on the farm, after the very good 6.9 and 7.3 engines) shame on Ford. You buy one now, shame on you.

That kind of talk is out dated now. There are no warranty claims going on for the 6.0 PSD now...the newest 6.0 is now 12 model years old. The manufacturers have moved well beyond the handling of this motor. Yet, every single day there they are...working and running. The issues and the motor are well understood now and they are not that big of a deal.

Matter of fact they don’t have near the emissions junk the new ones have so many people are keeping them or acquiring them. Makes sense from a financial POV.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Not that big of a deal if you have the knowledge and $ to keep it running......
Defending the virtues of the 6.0 is like peeing your pants in public. You may get a warm feeling from it but you’ll look silly to everyone else!
There’s a reason, in this good economy, that Id have to give 20grand for any halfway decent older diesel and at least 10 for high mile good ones. But I could have my pick of comparable 6.0s for close to half that price.

Crabbypatty wrote:
I have the 6.2l gasser with a 6 speed. We've had the truck two years towing a heavy 30 footer. Sunnybrook has an aluminum frame. The engine is fine, the 6 speed gets it up and going perfectly. The truck was outfitted with the camper package and has 3.73 rear gears. Im slowly tweaking it and added a K & N cold air kit. Next will be the exhaust then a tune. Not for more power although that is good, but to inch up the mpgs. Just completed a 1500 mile trip and we averaged in the high 8's, 9 mpg. I noticed that while towing it rarely would stay in 6 th gear at highway speeds. Love the truck and the set up

The K&N will add dirt to the engine and not add a bit of fuel mileage. It might add a very, very small amount of power. JMHO.

I have the 6.2l gasser with a 6 speed. We've had the truck two years towing a heavy 30 footer. Sunnybrook has an aluminum frame. The engine is fine, the 6 speed gets it up and going perfectly. The truck was outfitted with the camper package and has 3.73 rear gears. Im slowly tweaking it and added a K & N cold air kit. Next will be the exhaust then a tune. Not for more power although that is good, but to inch up the mpgs. Just completed a 1500 mile trip and we averaged in the high 8's, 9 mpg. I noticed that while towing it rarely would stay in 6 th gear at highway speeds. Love the truck and the set up

jerem0621 wrote:

ksss wrote:

Edd505 wrote:
Find a low mileage 6.0 diesel, do the EGR delete and drive on. Towing 12K at 214K and still running strong.

Wow! There is some advice to flush. When two companies spend hundreds of millions to point fingers on who is responsible for the creation of likely the worst diesel engine to roll out of Detroit since the GM 5.7 diesel and when companies exist for the sole purpose of trying to "bullet proof" said diesel. That is called a clue. If you bought a new early 6.0 (and we did on the farm, after the very good 6.9 and 7.3 engines) shame on Ford. You buy one now, shame on you.

That kind of talk is out dated now. There are no warranty claims going on for the 6.0 PSD now...the newest 6.0 is now 12 model years old. The manufacturers have moved well beyond the handling of this motor. Yet, every single day there they are...working and running. The issues and the motor are well understood now and they are not that big of a deal.

Matter of fact they don’t have near the emissions junk the new ones have so many people are keeping them or acquiring them. Makes sense from a financial POV.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

The 6.0 is still to be avoided.Unlike a fine wine the 6.0 did not get better with age. There are other options without the sordid history that did not/do not require bullet proofing

You can't believe everything you hear on the 6.0 F-250. I pulled a Sunnybrook fiver across country and many miles with no major issues. I did have the egr cooler replaced as a precaution but no other major problems. I did use an injector lubricate in the fuel with each fill up and changed the oil at 6k no matter what. Mine was the 2004 model. Yes there were some problems but all my friends that did have problems all had chipped theirs. The only reason I sold mine and move to a F-350 is the size and weight of our new fiver was over the capacity of the F-250. I do not like being right at or over the recommended capacities.

ksss wrote:

Edd505 wrote:
Find a low mileage 6.0 diesel, do the EGR delete and drive on. Towing 12K at 214K and still running strong.

Wow! There is some advice to flush. When two companies spend hundreds of millions to point fingers on who is responsible for the creation of likely the worst diesel engine to roll out of Detroit since the GM 5.7 diesel and when companies exist for the sole purpose of trying to "bullet proof" said diesel. That is called a clue. If you bought a new early 6.0 (and we did on the farm, after the very good 6.9 and 7.3 engines) shame on Ford. You buy one now, shame on you.

That kind of talk is out dated now. There are no warranty claims going on for the 6.0 PSD now...the newest 6.0 is now 12 model years old. The manufacturers have moved well beyond the handling of this motor. Yet, every single day there they are...working and running. The issues and the motor are well understood now and they are not that big of a deal.

Matter of fact they don’t have near the emissions junk the new ones have so many people are keeping them or acquiring them. Makes sense from a financial POV.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Nothing wrong with the 5.4l. The 3v is a solid engine. But it's also a little underpowered for heavy duty applications imo. I've towed with the 5.4l. It did OK but I wouldn't want to go back. I'd second looking for a 6.0l GM or 6.2l Ford.

Edd505 wrote:
Find a low mileage 6.0 diesel, do the EGR delete and drive on. Towing 12K at 214K and still running strong.

Wow! There is some advice to flush. When two companies spend hundreds of millions to point fingers on who is responsible for the creation of likely the worst diesel engine to roll out of Detroit since the GM 5.7 diesel and when companies exist for the sole purpose of trying to "bullet proof" said diesel. That is called a clue. If you bought a new early 6.0 (and we did on the farm, after the very good 6.9 and 7.3 engines) shame on Ford. You buy one now, shame on you.

I don't know how much the OP is planning on towing but I am also a 6.8L V10 fan stout engine with few issues (spark plugs). I am not a big 6.0L hater though if you are meticulous with proper fluids/filters and the maintenance. Some say deletes are preferred I did on one and didn't on another and both did well while I had them. The 5.4L 3v is a strong engine also and besides the spark plug removal issues (potentially) it can also have cam phaser issues (potentially) that can be costly to repair. They all have their pluses and minuses. Those Ford coil over plugs are pricey for the modular motors and tend to go out. Get some spares from Ebay or Amazon to save your $$$.