F 250 vs Ram 2500

swimmer_spe wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

swimmer_spe wrote:
I don't know if I can justify the payment. I'd like to stay a half ton, but I cannot get the box/cab configuration. So, I am now looking at what will work for me.

I know that Cummins recommended a more expensive 3500 with the HO CTD and Aisin, but the price difference between a 3/4 and 1 ton is negligible. I'd get a 1 ton if I could find one, but honestly there is minimal difference between most 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, other than an arbitrary class 2B distinction. In many states you can simply register a 3/4 ton for a higher weight than the 10,000 lbs Class 2B, you just have to pay for the higher weight.

But if buying, might as well get the 1 ton and not deal with speculation.

Ram 2500 vs 3500: 2500 has coil springs and sway bar and a 3500 has leaf springs and both share the same rear end. Power train the 2500 has less HP and Torque with the less than desirable 68RFE chrysler transmission.

Ford F250 vs F350: F350 has a larger spring pack than a F250. The F350 also has a larger read end. Having said that if you get a F250 with a trailer package option then it comes with the same spring pack and rear end as a F350. Power train the F250 and F350 share the same HP and Torque and the same 10 speed transmission.

So, 250 vs 2500, and 350 vs 3500

F250
HP-475
TQ-1,050
Transmission-10 speed (Medium Duty)
Made in USA
Parent Company- Ford Motor Company (USA)
Will probably have more squat with standard springs compared to a 2500

2500
HP-370
TQ-850
Tranmission-6 speed (68RFE) Half ton truck origins
Made in Mexico
Parent Company-Stellantis (French)
Squat is similar to a 3500

F350
HP-475
TQ-1,050
Transmission-10 speed (Medium Duty)
Made in USA
Parent Company- Ford Motor Company (USA)
Squat is similar to a 3500

3500
HP-400
TQ-1,075
Transmission-6 speed (Aisin Medium Duty)
Made in Mexico
Parent Company-Stellantis (French)
Squat is similar to a 350

swimmer_spe wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

swimmer_spe wrote:
I don't know if I can justify the payment. I'd like to stay a half ton, but I cannot get the box/cab configuration. So, I am now looking at what will work for me.

I know that Cummins recommended a more expensive 3500 with the HO CTD and Aisin, but the price difference between a 3/4 and 1 ton is negligible. I'd get a 1 ton if I could find one, but honestly there is minimal difference between most 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, other than an arbitrary class 2B distinction. In many states you can simply register a 3/4 ton for a higher weight than the 10,000 lbs Class 2B, you just have to pay for the higher weight.

But if buying, might as well get the 1 ton and not deal with speculation.

Ram 2500 vs 3500: 2500 has coil springs and sway bar and a 3500 has leaf springs and both share the same rear end. Power train the 2500 has less HP and Torque with the less than desirable 68RFE chrysler transmission.

Ford F250 vs F350: F350 has a larger spring pack than a F250. The F350 also has a larger read end. Having said that if you get a F250 with a trailer package option then it comes with the same spring pack and rear end as a F350. Power train the F250 and F350 share the same HP and Torque and the same 10 speed transmission.

So, 250 vs 2500, and 350 vs 3500

Simply open the hood.

swimmer_spe wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
OP step it up another cog and get a RAM 3500 CUMMINS/AISIN with Factory Rear Air. Loaded and unloaded ride is good and the truck sets nice and level with or without a load.

You will want a larger RV and when you do you will thank me you have enough truck to safely handle it.

I don't know if I can justify the payment. I'd like to stay a half ton, but I cannot get the box/cab configuration. So, I am now looking at what will work for me.

Not that much more to go 3500.

FishOnOne wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

swimmer_spe wrote:
I don't know if I can justify the payment. I'd like to stay a half ton, but I cannot get the box/cab configuration. So, I am now looking at what will work for me.

I know that Cummins recommended a more expensive 3500 with the HO CTD and Aisin, but the price difference between a 3/4 and 1 ton is negligible. I'd get a 1 ton if I could find one, but honestly there is minimal difference between most 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, other than an arbitrary class 2B distinction. In many states you can simply register a 3/4 ton for a higher weight than the 10,000 lbs Class 2B, you just have to pay for the higher weight.

But if buying, might as well get the 1 ton and not deal with speculation.

Ram 2500 vs 3500: 2500 has coil springs and sway bar and a 3500 has leaf springs and both share the same rear end. Power train the 2500 has less HP and Torque with the less than desirable 68RFE chrysler transmission.

Ford F250 vs F350: F350 has a larger spring pack than a F250. The F350 also has a larger read end. Having said that if you get a F250 with a trailer package option then it comes with the same spring pack and rear end as a F350. Power train the F250 and F350 share the same HP and Torque and the same 10 speed transmission.

So, 250 vs 2500, and 350 vs 3500

spoon059 wrote:

swimmer_spe wrote:
I don't know if I can justify the payment. I'd like to stay a half ton, but I cannot get the box/cab configuration. So, I am now looking at what will work for me.

I know that Cummins recommended a more expensive 3500 with the HO CTD and Aisin, but the price difference between a 3/4 and 1 ton is negligible. I'd get a 1 ton if I could find one, but honestly there is minimal difference between most 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, other than an arbitrary class 2B distinction. In many states you can simply register a 3/4 ton for a higher weight than the 10,000 lbs Class 2B, you just have to pay for the higher weight.

But if buying, might as well get the 1 ton and not deal with speculation.

Ram 2500 vs 3500: 2500 has coil springs and sway bar and a 3500 has leaf springs and both share the same rear end. Power train the 2500 has less HP and Torque with the less than desirable 68RFE chrysler transmission.

Ford F250 vs F350: F350 has a larger spring pack than a F250. The F350 also has a larger read end. Having said that if you get a F250 with a trailer package option then it comes with the same spring pack and rear end as a F350. Power train the F250 and F350 share the same HP and Torque and the same 10 speed transmission.

swimmer_spe wrote:
I don't know if I can justify the payment. I'd like to stay a half ton, but I cannot get the box/cab configuration. So, I am now looking at what will work for me.

I know that Cummins recommended a more expensive 3500 with the HO CTD and Aisin, but the price difference between a 3/4 and 1 ton is negligible. I'd get a 1 ton if I could find one, but honestly there is minimal difference between most 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, other than an arbitrary class 2B distinction. In many states you can simply register a 3/4 ton for a higher weight than the 10,000 lbs Class 2B, you just have to pay for the higher weight.

But if buying, might as well get the 1 ton and not deal with speculation.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
OP step it up another cog and get a RAM 3500 CUMMINS/AISIN with Factory Rear Air. Loaded and unloaded ride is good and the truck sets nice and level with or without a load.

You will want a larger RV and when you do you will thank me you have enough truck to safely handle it.

I don't know if I can justify the payment. I'd like to stay a half ton, but I cannot get the box/cab configuration. So, I am now looking at what will work for me.

spoon059 wrote:

JIMNLIN wrote:
The 2500 Ram has coils springs on the rear. Not the best for max loads.

My coil springs are rated for 6500 lbs, WAY more than a 10,000 lbs class limited truck needs. Also I've noticed Fords have a saggy suspension with weight, something I haven't seen with the newer Rams. I respectfully disagree with your comment.

Standard F250s are soft too. Well, not soft but compliant with light/no load, very similar to how the Ram coils ride.
Sure, both can “handle” a 3000lb load, both barely and doing the Carolina squat.
Point is, none of this matters. Aside from maybe if you’re planning on a truck camper which is not good with the Ram coil design.
All of them can be shored up with suspension adders and being around all 3, all 3 3/4 tons will need something to help once much over a ton in the bed.
Unless you like the Carolina squat look...

OP step it up another cog and get a RAM 3500 CUMMINS/AISIN with Factory Rear Air. Loaded and unloaded ride is good and the truck sets nice and level with or without a load.

You will want a larger RV and when you do you will thank me you have enough truck to safely handle it.

"“I am thinking of going diesel.” That will cost you payload but depending your trailer it might not matter."

That payload argument is a joke as the weight you are adding on a diesel is on the front axle. RV's add very little to the front axle. Reality is it's all about RAW rating and having tonnage to cover your loaded weight.