F150 w/ Eco Boost Enough

bimbert84 wrote:

I'm not sure where you got 6900#. The numbers I quoted above in blue say 6525#.

You quoted the brochure weight. The OP quoted the factory optioned dry weight right off the yellow tread act sticker.

bimbert84 wrote:
I'm quite sure I didn't say it was. I said it was an excellent choice for the OP's intended usage. For most of us, there's more to a truck than it being the ultimate tow machine.

Exactly, that's why I bought a 5.0L F150 myself but so many make the Ecoboost truck to be more than it is. It is not a Diesel and it is not a fuel efficient V6, it's a turbo V6 that drinks a lot of gas and have equal fuel efficiency of the 5.0L but with 40 lbs more torque.

bimbert84 wrote:
I don't know where you're getting these numbers, but they're not accurate. My GVWR without HD payload is 7650#. With HD payload, I believe it's 8200#.

You even quoted my statement saying the Max Tow package GVWR was 7650 lbs so I was right. You need to look at Axle ratings as that even more important since the Max Tow package inflates GVWR without really increasing the Axle ratings. The HD package is the same in not increasing the front axle rating much which is important on a longer 157" WB truck as more weight goes to the front axle.

bimbert84 wrote:
You don't need a 9900# GVWR for a 7800# trailer. It's total overkill (unless you want to load the entire trailer in the bed of the truck, but I think the length would be a problem ;) ).

Yes you do if you actually look at the entire picture. "HITCH WEIGHT RATING". The OP stated his dry factory optioned weight was 6900 lbs. Most with a 32' trailer load up to 1500 to 2000 lbs but many can get by loading a minimum weight of 1300 lbs. 1300 lbs + 6900 lbs = 8200 lbs. :D :D Math, it's wonderful. The 8200 lbs just happens to be this trailer's GVWR so it works out for minimum loading. Disappointing that such a large and heavy trailer has a weak frame and axles for such a low GVWR but it is what it is.

If this trailer does go up to a higher 14% (he'll need to weigh the tongue to be sure), he'll be at 1148 lbs, almost 100 lbs overloaded on standard tow or right at the limit of the Max tow package hitch receiver. Better not go a bit over 14% or it'll be overloaded as well. If it's 13%, he'll be at 1066 lbs, still overloaded on a standard tow package truck. Even with a Max Tow package, the truck only has a 4050 lbs rear axle rating which will likely be overloaded with family and gear in the truck, with such a heavy tongue weight. You'll need the Max Tow and HD package for sure just to be on the limit if not a bit overloaded. For all that, a F250 is the smarter choice dollar per dollar.

bimbert84 wrote:
I figured it using 15%. 13% kicks it from 1170# down to 1014#. I guess he can bring the bowling ball after all!

Your math is off, read above. 8200 lbs X 13% = 1066 lbs :D 8200 lbs X 14% = 1148 lbs lbs. Throw that calculator away, it's defective. :D

It's funny how people have no idea and recommend a truck that will be overloaded. Who cares, right, it's not their money or problem? Well I can sympathize with a new purchaser who want to buy a rig that's compatible because once you buy it, you can return it for a refund.