F350 payload dispute

This thread is like finding a Christmas present under my tree. Not only did I get the 2312 pounds of payload that Ford specified for my F-150 but also a Christmas bonus of 125 pounds by combining axle weights. Maybe next Christmas it will get bumped up to 3,000 pounds with some bigger tires? Next thing you know, people will be selling their Super Duty models and buying half tons. Merry Christmas and thanks to all.

PS, in towing thousands of miles including construction equipment, I only had a policeman take note of the tires on the lowboy once, when I was way overloaded. Like 20,000 pounds over. Roto Mills are heavy.

BUT you do not get the full 5000 lb per tire. 9.5" x 500 = 4750 lbs on the hwy max per tire. Even if you have the rating, you may not get to use that rating......

Point being, an LEO, or bro does not look at sidewall rating. Only niche is tire width, such.that the point load on the road bed is no too high.

Again, are any of you truly at or around this figure? If, don't worry about max legal amounts. If you are at the typical max axle load per a typical DOT class 1-3 truck, you will not be overloaded.

Marty

It’s also why you may see weight ratings on equipment based on maximum speed. This isn’t common on consumer vehicles, but seen on commercial gear. If you think about that Toyota towing the Space Shuttle, they were not towing on grades or at highway speeds - It’s capabilities changed due to these parameters.

transamz9 wrote:
4000 lb at what speed rating? L (75mph)? What's the temp rating? At 55 or so that tire will handle 5k no problem in cooler climates.

I never thought of only driving slowly and staying in cool places. Good advice.

TomG2 wrote:

Bedlam wrote:
245/70R19.5’s have a 5k LB rating in LRH PR16 models.

That must be the ones. Not real common around here. I could only find some Load Range F 12 ply with a little over 4,000 pound rating.

Proves my point. No sense getting a HD model. Just get bigger tires and an overload spring or two. Turns a 250 into a 450 without the expense.

4000 lb at what speed rating? L (75mph)? What's the temp rating? At 55 or so that tire will handle 5k no problem in cooler climates.

Bedlam wrote:
245/70R19.5’s have a 5k LB rating in LRH PR16 models.

That must be the ones. Not real common around here. I could only find some Load Range F 12 ply with a little over 4,000 pound rating.

Proves my point. No sense getting a HD model. Just get bigger tires and an overload spring or two. Turns a 250 into a 450 without the expense.

245/70R19.5’s have a 5k LB rating in LRH PR16 models.

blt2ski wrote:
If you have say 10K on the back of a SW truck, 245 tires as I do, you are about 500 lbs over weight! per the bridge laws!

Marty

Marty

You are carrying over 10,000 pounds on a pair of 245 tires? Wow! What is the tire load rating for those babies?

TomG2 wrote:

blt2ski wrote:
Being over a bridge law amount, you have 8 hours if possible to move the load so you are under the legal amount you get. ASSUMING that is possible. OR< you pay a fine/tax that allows you to drive on the road doing more damage to the road than legally allowed. Of course, the amount over will depend upon if you need to bring in another trailer, more axels etc to make yourself legal. Hence what happened in Olympia near me the other day with the train that fell on to the freeway. A trailer could handle it weight wise was called in, but the legal spec for the road bed amount was too much. So a different trailer had to be called in to mover the locomotive off the freeway.

Marty

Are you sure this has anything to do with travel trailers and fifth wheel trailers? The "Bridge Law" seldom comes into play with such light loads.

If you have say 10K on the back of a SW truck, 245 tires as I do, you are about 500 lbs over weight! per the bridge laws! While generally speaking as you note, most of us frankly are way the heck too light to really have to worry about the actual weight laws that need to be followed.

Reality is, for MOST rv'rs it is are you under your paid for license, licensed per your states laws, Along with driving in a safe and sane manner. You will not be having any issues.

From my experience getting pulled over by CVEO's in rigs under 26K total, the chances of any of us getting an overweight ticket is slim and none. Granted ALL of the rigs are commercial in nature, from the classes taught by CVEO's, such as wadcutter, most of us need not worry about weight. Some of the other things, like stopping, the trailer swaying more than IIRC 12" side to side, battery voltage for the primary battery that operates the e-brakes if the trailer gets loose. Will the trailer hold the truck while taking off in low gear from a start, pulling ebrake cord, again, locking the trailer wheels and holding the truck from moving. You need to pass these field tests to continue moving if the CVEO wants to have fun with you! THESE are ALL put on your driving record as moving violations. An overweight ticket is not a moving violation!

Marty

Marty

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this is 2016...

Jim

Don't you dare make my retirement a year further away, or I will have some words for you too!!!