F450 vs F350 SRW payload

4x4ord wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Call your insurance agent. Ask for pricing for anything you choose that’s over 14k.

Anything that is rated over 14k is considered Commercial for licensing and for insurance purposes.

So someone PLEASE explain why a pickup 350 or 450 drw are both rated at 14k???

So if you need a truck to haul 15k would you not register and insure it to haul 15k? Certainly the commercial guys are going to be registering their trucks for what they are hauling. Again, I don't understand why Ford wouldn't simply offer a reduced GVWR sticker for those people who buy a truck that they don't want to register and insure for their use so that Ford can boast true payload numbers?

For some of us, that sticker is a useless POS! Here in Washington state where a few of us reside. The W in gvwr means warranty, not weight rating!

We are charged 1.5 times the tare to the next highest ton. We are legal to that GVW as long as we are under the Federal Bridge Law requirements per axle.
Reality, Cummins 9750 is really 20K lbs. As I will assume his tires are wider than around 8.5"/225mm tire. Duallys get 600 lbs per inch width of tire, singles 500. With this in mind, Cummins could go down the road at around 32K, as can my Navistar, my old Gm 3500 CC dmax was also good to around 32000. Not saying I am going to recommend you run down the road at 32,000 gvw with ANY of these rigs.....just from a weight limit, that is the max you could license the tuck part for.
What will happen, is you will get taken off the road breaking some other law, like braking field test limits, potentially any how.......among other issues.

From a tow rating perspective. Many trucks as you probably know, might have a local max GCW, and an over the road max GCW. Dpending upon the performance spec one is looking for.
These manufactures rating numbers, in many cases, do not mean what one thinks they do....

marty