Ford F150 is going Powerstroke Diesel

Bionic Man wrote:

Hybridhunter wrote:
Why do people post BS like 23 mpg from an HD truck? Why? It contributes nothing and proves nothing, and smacks of a person who's words and opinions can't be trusted.......

Yep. Sure doesn't make sense to me. Just like someone who claims to have towed a 7000 pound trailer at the speed limit over I70 in Colorado with a NA V6 Ford. Hard to take anything seriously from them after those types of claims.

It was a 4700 lb trailer with a truck that has 320hp. I'm sure a 250hp diesel would have done better lol. Wait a minute, a bone stock truck with a bunch of extra weight and taller gears, looks like it can do it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmF5Yhcfscs

Here's a video of the 3.0PSD. Looks like performance wise it will be similar to the Eco Diesel which isn't saying much.

Having said that if Ford stays off the EPA's $hit list, they'll sell a few.

Link

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

Hybridhunter wrote:
Why do people post BS like 23 mpg from an HD truck? Why? It contributes nothing and proves nothing, and smacks of a person who's words and opinions can't be trusted.......

Oh chit! Now you done did it! The geezernet.com mileage police will be on you like flys on turds!!! Better duck!

No what it shows is you have never driven anything that can make that fuel mileage. My 2004 Ram Cummings made 27 mpg at 65 all day (not towing) and my 2015 Ecodiesel 4X4 CC makes 30 mpg @ 60 mph before the tune and 32 with the GDE tune. The 2019 Ecodiesel due out in mid summer will be rated two mpg higher then Fords 3.0 diesel. Maybe you should buy something with more then 6 gears if you want to get good fuel mileage.

This is a new age and some people will never understand that.

Don

Ha! My 8 speed gets like 16 mpg avg! Think it was about 19 on the last road trip but lots of traffic, lol. Shoots that theory to heck...
I can baby the Pickup in my sig into 20+ in the flatlands, until I fall asleep at the wheel...
Really depends if you're driving for mpg or driving to get there. But 27 out of a full size 5.9 diesel is a rare occurrence no matter how you drive...

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

Hybridhunter wrote:
Why do people post BS like 23 mpg from an HD truck? Why? It contributes nothing and proves nothing, and smacks of a person who's words and opinions can't be trusted.......

Oh chit! Now you done did it! The geezernet.com mileage police will be on you like flys on turds!!! Better duck!

No what it shows is you have never driven anything that can make that fuel mileage. My 2004 Ram Cummings made 27 mpg at 65 all day (not towing) and my 2015 Ecodiesel 4X4 CC makes 30 mpg @ 60 mph before the tune and 32 with the GDE tune. The 2019 Ecodiesel due out in mid summer will be rated two mpg higher then Fords 3.0 diesel. Maybe you should buy something with more then 6 gears if you want to get good fuel mileage.

This is a new age and some people will never understand that.

Don

What heavy duty truck has more than 6 gears? And the Ecodiesel hitting the market by mid summer, maybe next summer, maybe.

Grit dog wrote:

Hybridhunter wrote:
Why do people post BS like 23 mpg from an HD truck? Why? It contributes nothing and proves nothing, and smacks of a person who's words and opinions can't be trusted.......

Oh chit! Now you done did it! The geezernet.com mileage police will be on you like flys on turds!!! Better duck!

No what it shows is you have never driven anything that can make that fuel mileage. My 2004 Ram Cummings made 27 mpg at 65 all day (not towing) and my 2015 Ecodiesel 4X4 CC makes 30 mpg @ 60 mph before the tune and 32 with the GDE tune. The 2019 Ecodiesel due out in mid summer will be rated two mpg higher then Fords 3.0 diesel. Maybe you should buy something with more then 6 gears if you want to get good fuel mileage.

This is a new age and some people will never understand that.

Don

patperry2766 wrote:
OK, for arguments sake. When it comes time to actually replace the belt, how much is it gonna cost?

2nd, if it's such a great idea to use a timing belt as opposed to a chain, then why isn't it used on the full size diesel engines?

Old habits sometimes do die hard with me but I see the potential for so many problems that have the possibility to arise, it's not worth it to me. But then again, I don't like the fact that my 5.0 doesn't have a transmission dipstick either.

Nobody originally expected the 6.0 diesel to be such a "catastrophic" disaster when it was first produced either, but countless posts from owners who have had to spend literally thousands of dollars to repair of bullet proof their engines says otherwise in my opinion.

Hopefully in the future my fears will be proven to be unfounded.

The cummins 5.0 uses four chains. For some reason I think I would rather have the single belt.

OK, for arguments sake. When it comes time to actually replace the belt, how much is it gonna cost?

2nd, if it's such a great idea to use a timing belt as opposed to a chain, then why isn't it used on the full size diesel engines?

Old habits sometimes do die hard with me but I see the potential for so many problems that have the possibility to arise, it's not worth it to me. But then again, I don't like the fact that my Ford 5.0 doesn't have a transmission dipstick either.

Nobody originally expected the 6.0 diesel to be such a "catastrophic" disaster when it was first produced either, but countless posts from owners who have had to spend literally thousands of dollars to repair of bullet proof their engines says otherwise in my opinion.

Hopefully in the future my fears will be proven to be unfounded.

I get the timing belt apprehension, remember the days.
But old habits die hard and belt, pulley, tolerances, technology has increased a lot in even the last 10 years.
Not saying belts are better but I wouldn’t excpect some of the catastrophic results like in the past.

parker.rowe wrote:

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Chains rarely break, although they do stretch and throw the timing off. Very occasionally they may jump a tooth.

Or the chain guides self-destruct and the eventually chain wraps around the shaft ... like what could have happened with my 2006 Passat TDI I4. Luckily later models replaced the chain with gears and VW made a replacement kit available. When mine was opened up for the swap, pieces of one of the chain guides fell out.

Think my Cummins I6 uses gears as well, but the little Cummins V8 diesel has chains running all over. Ugh.

parker.rowe wrote:

patperry2766 wrote:

Because I had a car one time that had a timing belt. It broke, dropped a valve and destroyed an engine. Have never suffered that kind of problem with a chain in over 700K+ miles and 36 years of drivng.

Very true, in many engines the belt is a maintenance item that needs to be replaced every 60-100K or so. Although I think this interval has been increasing as belt technology has improved.

How catastrophic a broken belt would be would depend on wether the new power stroke was an interference engine or not.

Chains rarely break, although they do stretch and throw the timing off. Very occasionally they may jump a tooth.

150,000 service life on the timing belt.