Full pics & some info... 2017 Super Duty

Teamfour wrote:

transamz9 wrote:


OH, I don't know. Maybe stuff like on board air systems that can air up tires or maybe run small air tools. Have you looked at all the wasted space in front of and behind the rear tires? Make nice places for tool storage or maybe with the added fuel economy they could give added fuel capacity.

That stuff is cool until you realize the bite it takes out of payload capacity. More power doesn't often add to the weight of the truck, but cool doodads will.

OH, but power does my friend. They have to build the truck to be able to handle the power. My 2005 Ram weighs 6700# wet with me and momma in it. My 2013 weighs 8000#. The stuff I said, most people put in the trucks aftermarket anyway. Tool boxes and fuel tanks. I'm just saying that they could give the options to integrate them into the trucks. Just think, have an aux tank and tool box and still have the whole bed left.

Ford Man wrote:
The Ford dealer where I trade said the rumor was but not confirmed yet that the Ford Power Stroke would have 500hp and 1000 lbs torque.

I figure they will go for the 1000 lbs of torque to be the first. To get to 500 HP is going to be a good jump from the 440 now. Going to be interesting to see.

Did you happen to notice on the one you saw if the overall height had changed from present? I was wondering if it looks like it will still fit in a garage door height wise.

The Ford dealer where I trade said the rumor was but not confirmed yet that the Ford Power Stroke would have 500hp and 1000 lbs torque.

transamz9 wrote:


OH, I don't know. Maybe stuff like on board air systems that can air up tires or maybe run small air tools. Have you looked at all the wasted space in front of and behind the rear tires? Make nice places for tool storage or maybe with the added fuel economy they could give added fuel capacity.

That stuff is cool until you realize the bite it takes out of payload capacity. More power doesn't often add to the weight of the truck, but cool doodads will.

alboy wrote:
The power is nice with better mileage to boot.The new trucks are just so much more capable and enjoyable to drive.The 06 dodge/ram chipped to 365 hp did a great job for 9 years but the 2015 gmc 3500 dmax is light years ahead pulling the same 15k fiver.

It feels light years because it has a couple more gears to choose from and it is a lot quieter cab and refined suspension and drive train. It's not because it has more power. Ask My FIL. He had a new 2013 D-max/Alley that he tows his 5th wheel/boat combo behind me and I used my 2005 Ram on a trip and he was mad because he still couldn't stay with me on some of the back road hills around here and I'm towing about 4-5,000# more than he is. Don't get me wrong, his truck was a lot quieter and more comfortable but the power is still power when you can put it on the ground. All I'm saying is that the trucks now days have more than enough power to do the job, the big three need to get into a competition on who can come up with the best and most useful options and accessories. The biggest problem I see is that people want to be able to hook up to a 20,000# trailer and run side by side with and SUV running solo. It's not going to happen and do it safely.

Yes it would be fun but what's the point on the hiway

truck racin'

mich800 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

shepstone wrote:

ksss wrote:
I suspect that GM and Ford are waiting each other out to release info/specs on their 2017 powertrains. Both are releasing a significantly upgraded HD pickups for 2017 and no one wants to release their truck and have the guys across town up them by 10 hp.

A battle between the two heavyweights, its a good time to be a consumer!

Can you say +450HP and +1000ft/lbs torque. :E

Yeah, and it don't make sense either. All of the big three can tow way more than they can handle now. It's silly. They need to concentrate on more usable options and quit worrying about who can get to the top of the hill faster. Very few people including me never see the full HP out of their truck now days because they have to put so much torque management in them to even make them drive-able. Sure the numbers look good on paper and the commercials. Why does a pick-up need as much hp as a truck that tows over twice the load day in and day out? They don't.

Because people by them and they are fun to drive. The same reason we purchase sports cars capable of speeds approaching 200 mph.

What more usable options are you looking for in a truck? I am sure they will show up if enough people want them.

OH, I don't know. Maybe stuff like on board air systems that can air up tires or maybe run small air tools. Have you looked at all the wasted space in front of and behind the rear tires? Make nice places for tool storage or maybe with the added fuel economy they could give added fuel capacity.

Don't get me wrong, they are working on some pretty cool stuff like air ride and such but they are really IMO concentrating to much on power and not enough on some of the other things. They have technology on some models but don't offer it on others. It would be nice to get a Heavy Duty Cummins powered 3500 Ram to do the heavy hauling and towing and get the sway bar from a Powerwagon that can be disconnected for better off road use on the farm. Maybe, 4 corner full air only suspension on the 3500 that works like the system that is on the Jeeps to where you can adjust for ground clearance or kneel to depart from the vehicle. Maybe A/C power to run tools like saws and drills working in the back 40 and not have to carry a generator.

Hannibal wrote:
My 2010 F250 is the first of many trucks I've owned that I'm not anxious to trade in for some reason or another. Hopefully the new Superduty will be as long term when the time comes. I'll miss the twin I-beam and C channel chassis.

Lol. Only reason to miss the ole c channel frame is if you're looking to gain some articulation via frame flex!
Not saying it's a bad truck just pointing out the obvious advantage in stiffness of boxed frame rails.

The power is nice with better mileage to boot.The new trucks are just so much more capable and enjoyable to drive.The 06 dodge/ram chipped to 365 hp did a great job for 9 years but the 2015 gmc 3500 dmax is light years ahead pulling the same 15k fiver.

transamz9 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

shepstone wrote:

ksss wrote:
I suspect that GM and Ford are waiting each other out to release info/specs on their 2017 powertrains. Both are releasing a significantly upgraded HD pickups for 2017 and no one wants to release their truck and have the guys across town up them by 10 hp.

A battle between the two heavyweights, its a good time to be a consumer!

Can you say +450HP and +1000ft/lbs torque. :E

Yeah, and it don't make sense either. All of the big three can tow way more than they can handle now. It's silly. They need to concentrate on more usable options and quit worrying about who can get to the top of the hill faster. Very few people including me never see the full HP out of their truck now days because they have to put so much torque management in them to even make them drive-able. Sure the numbers look good on paper and the commercials. Why does a pick-up need as much hp as a truck that tows over twice the load day in and day out? They don't.

Because people by them and they are fun to drive. The same reason we purchase sports cars capable of speeds approaching 200 mph.

What more usable options are you looking for in a truck? I am sure they will show up if enough people want them.

FishOnOne wrote:

shepstone wrote:

ksss wrote:
I suspect that GM and Ford are waiting each other out to release info/specs on their 2017 powertrains. Both are releasing a significantly upgraded HD pickups for 2017 and no one wants to release their truck and have the guys across town up them by 10 hp.

A battle between the two heavyweights, its a good time to be a consumer!

Can you say +450HP and +1000ft/lbs torque. :E

Yeah, and it don't make sense either. All of the big three can tow way more than they can handle now. It's silly. They need to concentrate on more usable options and quit worrying about who can get to the top of the hill faster. Very few people including me never see the full HP out of their truck now days because they have to put so much torque management in them to even make them drive-able. Sure the numbers look good on paper and the commercials. Why does a pick-up need as much hp as a truck that tows over twice the load day in and day out? They don't.