Full pics & some info... 2017 Super Duty

Hannibal wrote:
My extended cab Rams didn't have a B-pillar either. Forever had to remind the kids to close the back doors first.

LOL, nothing like getting in the front seat and slam the door to find out they haven't closed the back door yet....LOL

My extended cab Rams didn't have a B-pillar either. Forever had to remind the kids to close the back doors first.

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Have to say they look nice all but this one!

God help you if you get t-boned in that truck! All to save what 10# for the B-pillar? Dumb very very dumb! Wounder what CR and the IIHS thinks of this one?

Before anyone jumps on my back stop and think, would you want your family inside that truck? A car hitting it won't be to much of an issue. But if your t-boned by another pickup it is going to come right inside that passenger compartment and no matter how many side air bags it has, they won't help you!

As for the hips they look a lot nicer then the ones they are running right now. Still not a fan of the front ends, the one thing I like is they cut back on the number of "SUPER DUTY" badges by 3 lol. All kidding aside it looks like a very nice truck!

Don

When the doors are closed the jambs act like a B pillar lol just guessing :? Didnt notice it missing tho until you mentioned it.

Arcamper wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:

DutchmenSport wrote:
Yea, fat fenders may look like an after thought, but if one gets clobbered, you don't have spend $4000 to replace the entire side, like on my GM. Looks like the fat fender can be removed, fixed easy and replaced. I love my GM duly, but it has a dent in the fat fender. To fix, the entire side has to come off. I'm just leaving the dent for now.

I agree and have made this point here several times. As a matter of fact if a rear fender does get damaged which I see all the time you can have a new one painted at a body shop and install it yourself and your truck never has to go to a body shop.

MAYBE if the truck is new. If it's a couple years old no body shop worth it's salt will do that and guarantee a exact color match without the truck there.

Theres really no exact color match, just a good painter who knows how to blend, especially with pearls and metallics. ;)

Have to say they look nice all but this one!

God help you if you get t-boned in that truck! All to save what 10# for the B-pillar? Dumb very very dumb! Wounder what CR and the IIHS thinks of this one?

Before anyone jumps on my back stop and think, would you want your family inside that truck? A car hitting it won't be to much of an issue. But if your t-boned by another pickup it is going to come right inside that passenger compartment and no matter how many side air bags it has, they won't help you!

As for the hips they look a lot nicer then the ones they are running right now. Still not a fan of the front ends, the one thing I like is they cut back on the number of "SUPER DUTY" badges by 3 lol. All kidding aside it looks like a very nice truck!

Don

transferred wrote:
Will these all-new Ford SRW trucks start coming with 11.5" rear axles to match GM and Dodge?

The AAM rear end in the Ram was the biggest reason I was anxious to go back to a Ford. Both the Hemi and Cummins powered 2500HD's didn't make it to 100k miles before needing a rebuild. The Sterling rear end in the F250 has been solid so far. The other reason was those little dried out ball joints up front on those spindly little upper control arms. The ancient design twin I-beam has also been solid so far.

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Hannibal wrote:
My 2010 F250 is the first of many trucks I've owned that I'm not anxious to trade in for some reason or another. Hopefully the new Superduty will be as long term when the time comes. I'll miss the twin I-beam and C channel chassis.

Lol. Only reason to miss the ole c channel frame is if you're looking to gain some articulation via frame flex!
Not saying it's a bad truck just pointing out the obvious advantage in stiffness of boxed frame rails.

I remember when I traded my '01.5 Cummins Ram with C-channel chassis and Dana rear end for my '03 Cummins Ram. If I could have had my '01.5 back or even my '98 12v back, I would have in a heartbeat.

We are lining in the muscle car era for trucks. Enjoy it!!!! I know I am.

Here's a new Trailer Reverse Guidance system.

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ksss wrote:
I am not sure when enough is enough as far as power, but I does not appear that anyone wants to back out. I think GM would have liked to and while they perform well in the real world, they cant win the battle in ads on TV and print at their current output. So the big power show will continue. I have to think that when they all hit 1000 pounds of torque and 500ish hp that they will largely call that good (give or take a 5-10 hp or torque bump here and there. I also wish they would spend some time on improving the mpg's but that does not seem to be a big issue, especially currently.

Next couple months will be interesting in the HD pickup world. I would have never guessed even 5 years ago that you could buy a pickup off the showroom floor with these kinds of projected numbers.

Good post. Calling enough is enough happened a few years back with the sports car and sport sedans on the last few years. There was the power wars, but now it's been about weight savings. Makes for better handling, braking and fuel economy. Win, win, win.A good example of this is the latest M3 which is only 10 hp more than its predecessor but is lighter and faster. That said, the Hellcat from Dodge just came out so...

I understand it's far from an apples to apples as big trucks need curb weight to keep trailers and loads stable but it does seem SRW trucks that weigh 8,000lbs empty is a bit nuts.

Not to mention the new engines are so powerful the drivelines can't keep up and the torque management is far more intrusive than on my 2005 1-ton Cummins, for example.