GM assembly plant in Oshawa Ontario closing.

mich800 wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

blofgren wrote:
I certainly don’t want to turn this in to a political issue but I think with absolute certainty we can thank Mr. Trump’s tariffs for this decision.

I don't think so, Ford and GM are just following Sergio's new business model. Stop building low profit small and mid size cars and when demand comes back start building them in Mexico at a lower cost. That is why all Ram truck production will be moved back to the USA. It will free up a huge plant for retooling to build small and midsize cars. You do know Mexico and Canada came back to the table to sign a new REAL FAIR TRADE AGREEMENT don't you? That is a win for America, just like all of the rest of the Countries will be doing! MAGA!

Don

True. Not to mention a decision of this magnitude was made way before any tariff issue which will most likely be a short run issue anyway.

You have got to be kidding? It's not a vast conspiracy as reported on RV.NET?

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

blofgren wrote:
I certainly don’t want to turn this in to a political issue but I think with absolute certainty we can thank Mr. Trump’s tariffs for this decision.

I don't think so, Ford and GM are just following Sergio's new business model. Stop building low profit small and mid size cars and when demand comes back start building them in Mexico at a lower cost. That is why all Ram truck production will be moved back to the USA. It will free up a huge plant for retooling to build small and midsize cars. You do know Mexico and Canada came back to the table to sign a new REAL FAIR TRADE AGREEMENT don't you? That is a win for America, just like all of the rest of the Countries will be doing! MAGA!

Don

True. Not to mention a decision of this magnitude was made way before any tariff issue which will most likely be a short run issue anyway.

Johno02 wrote:
GM has a history of bad decisions. They will make millions in profit from the incentives that were given for building the plants, then dumping it as soon as possible. No employees to pay, get the stupid locals to pay for most of the building and opening expenses, then drop it all and put the money into their pockets, and leave all the rest for someone else to pay for. Nothing new, just the way they do business.

I'm sorry that your diesel Chevette back in the early 80s was a turd. All other US manufacturers were also just finding out that the import invasion was on and producing higher quality vehicles was a necessity.
The Chevrolet Impala (not the fleet version) is the highest rated full size sedan by CR and at the same time GM is fast outpacing most others in EV and AI engineering and investment. Barra is the industry darling and yet with all of that you have heartburn. Enjoy your Prius before Toyota kills them. Yes, they are dropping the whole line.

I'm warming it up LOL.

blofgren wrote:
I certainly don’t want to turn this in to a political issue but I think with absolute certainty we can thank Mr. Trump’s tariffs for this decision.

I don't think so, Ford and GM are just following Sergio's new business model. Stop building low profit small and mid size cars and when demand comes back start building them in Mexico at a lower cost. That is why all Ram truck production will be moved back to the USA. It will free up a huge plant for retooling to build small and midsize cars. You do know Mexico and Canada came back to the table to sign a new REAL FAIR TRADE AGREEMENT don't you? That is a win for America, just like all of the rest of the Countries will be doing! MAGA!

Don

azdryheat wrote:
Hopefully the plant and jobs are coming back to the US.

Good chance they won't. Chances are that GM will drop building big sedans, maybe all sedans like Ford and maybe Chrysler.

The Chevy Impala sales have been dropping rapidly the past few years. I have a 2015 Chevy Impala and it's an excellent car and was built in Oshawa. I also have a 2007 Buick LaCrosse that was built at the Oshawa plant and it's engine (Buick 90 degree 3800 V6) was built in Flint, Michigan.

The Oshawa plant has been ranked as one of the top quality plants of any manufacture, for a number of years. If GM is just going to shutter the plant completely, then I wonder if this was their intention when both the federal Canadian government and the provincial Ontario government bailed them out in Canada during the 2008 financial crisis. Some of my federal tax money went to GM. Canada worked alongside the USA in the huge bailout of GM.

I have been a GM customer since 1968 buying GM cars built in both the USA and Canada. I have bought vehicles about 95 % +, that were built in North America to support North Americans during those 50 years. I just (less than 2 weeks ago) bought a set of Goodyear all weather tires, built in the USA for quite a few bucks.

It has been a two way street up to now, but if this at an end, then I may assess my buying habits of a lifetime. Over the years, my buying philosophy has been to support North American companies and workers, but it has to be a two way street.

Many don't know but Canada and the USA have been each other's largest trading partners for many, many years.

Fair trade works well for both our countries. We both have a better standard of living as a result.

blofgren wrote:
I certainly don’t want to turn this in to a political issue but I think with absolute certainty we can thank Mr. Trump’s tariffs for this decision.

Don't think it's political/Trumps doing. It's just plain simple mfr's way of doing business. GM will close the Canada plant and send things to Mexico due to cheaper labor. Mark my word

Hopefully the plant and jobs are coming back to the US.

I certainly don’t want to turn this in to a political issue but I think with absolute certainty we can thank Mr. Trump’s tariffs for this decision.

Johno02 wrote:
GM has a history of bad decisions. They will make millions in profit from the incentives that were given for building the plants, then dumping it as soon as possible. No employees to pay, get the stupid locals to pay for most of the building and opening expenses, then drop it all and put the money into their pockets, and leave all the rest for someone else to pay for. Nothing new, just the way they do business.

It opened in 1953. 1953