How About 600HP for You ECO-Boost fans??

BurbMan wrote:

Krusty wrote:
I'll bet the "ECO" designation is definitely out the window now

Not at all...look at a car like the SHO, once at speed in OD and cruising, little to no boost and very good gas mileage. Same as the advantage of the EB in the 150 trucks....small motor and good mileage, twin turbos only make power when you need it.

That's what they want you to think. Real world says different. The EcoBoost V6 in the new Lincoln Navigator is rated at 16 mpg combined. Same as the GMC Yukon Denali XL 6.2L V8. They make great power for their size, and a great for towing due to the design (turbos and DI), however, mpg misers EcoBoosts are not.

Krusty wrote:
I'll bet the "ECO" designation is definitely out the window now

Not at all...look at a car like the SHO, once at speed in OD and cruising, little to no boost and very good gas mileage. Same as the advantage of the EB in the 150 trucks....small motor and good mileage, twin turbos only make power when you need it.

I'll bet the "ECO" designation is definitely out the window now

I wonder about gas mileage?

I complain because I get 10 mpg at 60 mph. I do not need passing power, at 60 mph everything passes me.

I certainly do not need the ability to cruse up and down mountains like a sports car. My accents and descents are plenty fast.

However I certainly could use a few move miles per gallon.

Like anything reliability likely has more to do with how you use and maintain it. These are maximum numbers you would rarely if ever use on the streets so drive reasonably and the actual high usage may be seldom high enough to affect reliability so you would notice. That said the extra cost of diesels is from them tending to beef up with a lot more metal and so they can handle the extra torque better. Pass cars up those long mountain uphills just cause ya can and expect some blue smoke much sooner than with stock setup.

Sport45 wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:
Artificially aspirated motors can produce incredible power, but longevity is a desirable trait also.

Deisel engines have been running fine for decades with turbochargers. No reason to think the same can't be done with gas engines. Just keep them within their design limits.

I'm not aware of diesels putting out 170 HP per liter for decades though. I guess if these gasoline engines are used where the power might only be tapped into once every two weeks they will likely do just fine.

I have seen more things like this although ASIAN sourced pickups are widespread. Some utility companies are using Car/Trucks as work vehicles in Urban areas replacing ASIAN sourced Pickups in some cases

This has a raised chassis and a locked differential for some Off Road work

BenK wrote:
Add to asking about folks down under...do you have as many 'fashion statement'
folks driving what the OEMs offer?

Up here...too many times now, the OEMs weight their offerings way over towards
the fashion statement crowd who care more for the bells and whistles than ability

Buddy down there isn't a good one to ask...he works on tranny's on his kitchen
table...guess why he is single again... :)

But most of the stuff he has on his Suburban I want, isn't available
up here

Yes of all the US HD Pickups imported 80% are used for towing Caravans, 20% for just driving around

fla-gypsy wrote:
Artificially aspirated motors can produce incredible power, but longevity is a desirable trait also.

Deisel engines have been running fine for decades with turbochargers. No reason to think the same can't be done with gas engines. Just keep them within their design limits.

Add to asking about folks down under...do you have as many 'fashion statement'
folks driving what the OEMs offer?

Up here...too many times now, the OEMs weight their offerings way over towards
the fashion statement crowd who care more for the bells and whistles than ability

Buddy down there isn't a good one to ask...he works on tranny's on his kitchen
table...guess why he is single again... :)

But most of the stuff he has on his Suburban I want, isn't available
up here