Hey all,Buying tires, I have had Carlisles before and had good luck with them.I was looking at these. Carlisle radial trailSpeed rating N. I have seen good things about these ones on line. I know everyone likes Maxxis, but I am getting rid of Towmaxs.Comments? Concerns? Trailer is 7500lbs loaded on the scales.

Some have had OK luck with them. Personally I will stick with Maxxis, a known commodity until I am as sure of Carlisles - Of which I had 5 of 5 fail of the orig. radial.

I just did a lot of research on this, and also have a 7,500 pound trailer, and I decided to go with the Maxxis. I've only taken one trip on them, for about a total of 150 miles, so I can't really give an opinion, but I'm confident they will hold up well. The tires were $98 apiece at Discount Tire, and I got a 10% military discount (off of the tires only), so for five tires it came to around $590 for the tires, balancing, mounting, metal stems, and tax.

I mounted Carlisle Radial Trail RH 205 75 15's Load D on my trailer a couple of years back. I don't have a lot of miles on them but they seem to be running well.

Same here as westend, 205/75r15 D range. Doing great, very little wear in 4K miles. Keep at 55# on my oem wheels, more load capacity at that pressure than the C range.Wholesale supplier said that he has had no problems with the RH since its introduction.But as all of those who say no to Carlisle's, Ya'll have to remember that proper care is the rule for any brand. Over 11 yrs and 2 sets of Marathons with no problems, I believe that the RH's will be a good tire just as Maxxis.

if you actually want to get the highest load rated tire the answer is clear :Goodyear Cargo G26size : 225/70 R 15Rated at 2470 # load on the LT rating scale Not the 15 % wimpier ST rating scale .Speed rating is 106 mph .This tire weighs 33 # . Load range D means you only inflate to 65 psi to get your max weight rating .It fits on most 15 inch rv steel wheels without issues .The typical Maxxis (and other ) ST 225/75R15 weighs about 29 # .The Cargo G26 is made for European passenger vans such as the Mercedes Sprinter Vans .readily available on tire rack and every goodyear dealer .go here for complete specs :http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Cargo+G26&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=27R5G26&tab=Sizes

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30 Replies

dmullen
Explorer
Jun 09, 2015
I plan on getting the Kumho Radial 857 tires for my TT to match my 205/75/14C factory tires. My wheels are ArcWheel MAX Load 1870LBS. I read on another forum that I should check the PSI rating of the wheel? Where would I find that?
Huntindog
Explorer
Jun 09, 2015
RinconVTR wrote:
BigSkyTrailer Guy wrote:
The OP seems to be wanting some encouragement in his Carlyle choice...and he's seeing a few "No" responses. Instead of praying you'll be one of the lucky ones running this Chinese rubber -- Why not give your confidence a break and pay about $10 more for Japanese made light truck Yokohamas? 195LT/75r/14"
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tires/yokohama/product/byName.do?r=WASINT%7Cpc%7C98370&tmn=Y356&typ=Truck%2FSUV
I'm soiling myself with delight over these Yokos! They wear gr8, their high speed rating means lower operating temps, A higher load rating... just a better tire. I'm not gonna worry about Chinese STs ever again.

Not a bad find. They are just like the Kumho 857's in this size.

Problem is that require very high PSI which very few wheels (and valve stems as well) are rated for. In this case 65psi. No thanks.
65 PSI is not high at all. I have run 80 for over years. No issues at all... Unless you are using a bicycle pump to air them up, you will notice no difference. Air is like coolant for tires. The more air a tire can hold,the cooler it runs.
stufarmer
Explorer
Jun 08, 2015
you get what you pay for. Personally we're running 16" wheels on our Arctic Fox 26X. I'm running Toyo 265/75/16's 10 ply. 3400 lb per tire. Another $100. or $200. is worth every nickel to keep yourself and family off the side of the road just to save a buck.
RinconVTR
Explorer
May 28, 2015
BigSkyTrailer Guy wrote:
The OP seems to be wanting some encouragement in his Carlyle choice...and he's seeing a few "No" responses. Instead of praying you'll be one of the lucky ones running this Chinese rubber -- Why not give your confidence a break and pay about $10 more for Japanese made light truck Yokohamas? 195LT/75r/14"
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tires/yokohama/product/byName.do?r=WASINT%7Cpc%7C98370&tmn=Y356&typ=Truck%2FSUV
I'm soiling myself with delight over these Yokos! They wear gr8, their high speed rating means lower operating temps, A higher load rating... just a better tire. I'm not gonna worry about Chinese STs ever again.

Not a bad find. They are just like the Kumho 857's in this size.

Problem is that require very high PSI which very few wheels (and valve stems as well) are rated for. In this case 65psi. No thanks.
BigSkyTrailer_G
Explorer
May 27, 2015
The OP seems to be wanting some encouragement in his Carlyle choice...and he's seeing a few "No" responses. Instead of praying you'll be one of the lucky ones running this Chinese rubber -- Why not give your confidence a break and pay about $10 more for Japanese made light truck Yokohamas? 195LT/75r/14"
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tires/yokohama/product/byName.do?r=WASINT%7Cpc%7C98370&tmn=Y356&typ=Truck%2FSUV
I'm soiling myself with delight over these Yokos! They wear gr8, their high speed rating means lower operating temps, A higher load rating... just a better tire. I'm not gonna worry about Chinese STs ever again.
westend
Explorer
May 27, 2015
Rincon,
Thanks for posting up the info on Carlisles.
RinconVTR
Explorer
May 27, 2015
I installed 4 new Carlisle RH series tires last year, and so far I like everything I see.

Including what I don't see...reports of failures on the internet.

Even if I saw a few reports of failures would not say much, EVERY tire can fail at ANY time. Period. But so far, its very tough to find a Radial RH failure out there.

Here's the deal on their speed ratings as well...
time2roll
Nomad
May 27, 2015
Hannibal wrote:
Just returned from a week long trip and noticed one of my 2009 D rated Marathons on our 8500~lb 5th wheel has finally started to grow in diameter on one side. Six years is past what I feel comfortable with with any tire LT or ST so in my humble opinion, I got my money's worth out of them. I'm probably going to buy another set of Marathons for it.
The newest Marathon made in the last couple years should prove to be far more reliable. GY moved production to a NEW factory in China with direct GY employees to QC the materials and build process. Not the same as the previous try with build to spec by the lowest bidder that caused many troubles.

For the OP... consider the Kumho 857 in your 14" size.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Radial+857
carl2591
Explorer III
May 27, 2015
I have, as have others , read this and other articles that wax poetic on the virtues of the ST vs LT tire.. All I can tell you is the guys that switched have gone THOUSANDS of mile with NO issues. Most of the time, in a trailer, you are going forward in a straight line or backwards in a straightish line.

I have read posts like shown on this site, were tires had a blowout for no good reason.. proper air pressure, not overheated, less than 3 yrs old etc. and still get a blow out. You will be hard pressed to find someone using LT tires with the same issues..

just sayin. I can say when i get a airstream in a year or so it will have the wheels changed to 16" and running LT tires. I don't go with the argument of the ST vs LT.. I tend to care for my equipment more that the ST tire can provide. Michelin cost more but then so do airstreams.

BubbaChris wrote:
carl2591 wrote:
SO why not go with a LT tire vs ST. I know of a lot of (guys) on the airstream forums,, airforums.com,, went away from the (junk)goodyear tires to the Maxxis and Carlisle and were still having issues.

A lot have gone from a 15" wheel and ST tire to the 16" wheel and LT tires and NO blowout. They cost a bit more than the Maxxis, Carlisle but the peace of mind and lack of blowouts is worth it weight in gold..

Dont think you have to run ST tires only on trailers. The arguments are not well founded in fact or real life usage.

My brother in law is getting his first RV soon and I sent him a note to investigate the ST vs LT issue - he responded with this well-written article - Clicky

Two points jumped out at me. 1) The issue of the sidewall cords being selected in ST tires specifically to deal with the twisting that comes from having a pair of solid axles when you're turning the rig. 2) The load rating specifics cited, where a commonly recommended LT tire has a lower spec than the ST tire it is likely replacing.

The other mitigating factor for my brother in law is he lives in California and would have to tow for more than 4 hours before he gets anywhere it is legal to be going more than 55MPH with a trailer.
Hannibal
Explorer
May 24, 2015
Just returned from a week long trip and noticed one of my 2009 D rated Marathons on our 8500~lb 5th wheel has finally started to grow in diameter on one side. Six years is past what I feel comfortable with with any tire LT or ST so in my humble opinion, I got my money's worth out of them. I'm probably going to buy another set of Marathons for it.
Our previous 5th wheel didn't do well with D rated Marathons. At 10,400 lbs, it chewed them up in about three years. I've never had a blowout as I'm fairly obsessed with checking not only pressure but any signs of trouble. Usually starts with a rib groove just a tad wider at some point around the tire's tread. Hard to see unless you're looking for it.
It's been my experience that up to about 80% of the tire's rated capacity works fine for ST tires for around 5 years if cared for properly. I don't expect any more years out of LT tires on the truck but I wear them out in three to four years so I'll never know. We watched an LT tire tear up the side of an older Hitchhiker 5th wheel on I-10 in the Florida panhandle a while back. They get old and give up too. They just cost more and do more damage when they let go.
U-Haul has gone back to bias ply tires on their much abused trailers. I can't help but believe they're on to something. When they come apart they don't tear up everything around them.