Is J2807 worthless?
A recent thread was locked due to brand bickering. Before I got a chance to respond to the latest turn of the conversation. It was stated that J2807 a worthless standard by a few people... Primaril...
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Huntindog wrote:
I like to tow at or slightly above the posted speed limit. Therefore I think your idea of a "test" is inadequete.:B
Give it a rest.
There is no such thing as a "perfect" test in everyones eyes.
We could go back to when there were no standards, and they could just pull numbers out of a hat.
I did give it a rest on the last page, but then mileshuff brought it back up again quoting me so I responded.
Although in a way I wish they would go back to having no standards. At least back then the tow numbers were more reasonable. Like I said earlier, before J2807 the max tow rating for 350/3500 trucks was under 25K. Now after J2807 the ratings skyrocketed to 30K and above.
For example....
Before the J2807, the pick up version of the F450 was rated at 24.7k. Then Ford made a few changes just get some high numbers on the test and the post J2807 number is 31.2k
Then there is the Ram 3500. Before Ram made all their "upgrades" specifically for the J2807 the most a 3500 was rated tow was 22.7k lbs. Then afterwards it was 30k.
Currently, the GM 3500s are rated at 22.9k at most. How much you want to bet that that number is going to jump to over 30k when they make their already stated "upgrades" to the truck specifically to get a high number on the test so they can market higher numbers.
Basically what is going to happen is exactly what happens with the EPA fuel mileage numbers. Automakers will configure their vehicle just to pass with high numbers on a test for marketing reasons when in reality most can't even get those numbers if they tried or it is not reasonably safe to do so.
