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- 1jeepExplorer IIIn Ma, the law states any vehicle with 5 tires or more touching the road must be registered as commercial. when I bought my drw f350, I had to get commercial plates which require the reg to charge by the ton. also I have commercial insurance due to the plate, vehicle inspection is twice the cost, but I do not have to have a health card as others would if the truck was used for hire.
- blt2skiModerator
Lantley wrote:
I'm from MD we have none of that. You're not considered commercial until you declare it! Of course a truck with tools signage etc. will be in violation. However size alone does not make it commercial.
There is no need to go to weigh stations etc.
Any commercial vehicle over 10K GVW must have DOT stickers
That 12K limit applies to GCWR as well.
However you can own a 12K GVW vehicle privately.
12K will result in higher registration fees,but the vehicle can still be considered private
When I say over 10K lbs. That would be gvw or gcw! So a rig with say a 6K plate, towing a 4001+ lb trailer is considered over 10K, so they have to follow the rules for rigs over 10K! Really does not matter how you get to 10K+. reality is also, rigs over 10K are not supposed to use car pool lanes either, nor are rigs with trailers......but not always enforced.
For the most part, most states will not enforce the commercial licensing regs on what are or appear to be non commercial users. Nw if towing an rv trailer for hire with ones pickup.......better look at commercial regs fees etc.
Everybody here pays tonneage on there truck based rig the same, be it commercial or private use. The amount you buy, pay for etc is the same for private and commercial. Door sticker has NOTHING to do with what you pay for, are legal to etc.
Marty - LantleyNomad
blt2ski wrote:
Here you would pay a tonnage tax of the next higher ton to 1.5 times tare wt, that is the legal amount you can go down the road at gvwr wise. For most 15 series trucks, this will be an 8k plate. 25/35sw rigs a 10-12K, 35 duallies a 12 or 14K plate minimums.
You are not commercial unless you declare the rig to be commercial. Altho if licensed at or over 14K, you do pay a fed fee for being over this amount.
Now with ALl of this said......since you will probably have a gross license OVER 10K lbs, while you do not need a cdl to operate, drive a limited amount of hours etc, You WOULD need to follow the truck speed laws, which is a max 60 mph here, in the winter months, you NEED to by law carry tire chains, and put on when ever traction devices are required! be it in the mountain passes, or here in the low lands etc. So SOME of the commercial regs for rigs over 10K need to be followed. This is true in Idaho, Oregon and Washington that I know of. QUite possibly Montana too!
As noted, call you local DMV/DOL or equal where you buy your license registration.
Marty
I'm from MD we have none of that. You're not considered commercial until you declare it! Of course a truck with tools signage etc. will be in violation. However size alone does not make it commercial.
There is no need to go to weigh stations etc.
Any commercial vehicle over 10K GVW must have DOT stickers
That 12K limit applies to GCWR as well.
However you can own a 12K GVW vehicle privately.
12K will result in higher registration fees,but the vehicle can still be considered private - blt2skiModeratorHere you would pay a tonnage tax of the next higher ton to 1.5 times tare wt, that is the legal amount you can go down the road at gvwr wise. For most 15 series trucks, this will be an 8k plate. 25/35sw rigs a 10-12K, 35 duallies a 12 or 14K plate minimums.
You are not commercial unless you declare the rig to be commercial. Altho if licensed at or over 14K, you do pay a fed fee for being over this amount.
Now with ALl of this said......since you will probably have a gross license OVER 10K lbs, while you do not need a cdl to operate, drive a limited amount of hours etc, You WOULD need to follow the truck speed laws, which is a max 60 mph here, in the winter months, you NEED to by law carry tire chains, and put on when ever traction devices are required! be it in the mountain passes, or here in the low lands etc. So SOME of the commercial regs for rigs over 10K need to be followed. This is true in Idaho, Oregon and Washington that I know of. QUite possibly Montana too!
As noted, call you local DMV/DOL or equal where you buy your license registration.
Marty - JIMNLINExplorer IIIMy state says......well that don't help you with your question.
As fj12ryder says do a 1-800 to your state registration office and ask them.
Not knowing what you do with a truck I couldn't say what your state regs require. Make the call. - RobertRyanExplorer
DutchmenSport wrote:
F350's and 3500's generally do not require DOT licensing is necessary. However, if the vehicle is used for hire (for example, you use it for business purposes, hauling a utility trailer with supplies for a company, or if you are a contractor, or carpenter, or into construction and use it for transporting equipment and / or products, then yes,... you'd need the DOT license.
If for your private use, then no. I do think the F350 and 3500's do need a commercial type licensing in Australia, from what I've gathered on these forums. But, Maryland is a long way from Australia! :B
When you get into the MDT trucks, then you start getting into questionable territory.
Commercial licences in Australia refer to the business , not the type of vehicle.
F350's do not need a different licence only when their GVWR exceeds 10,000lb, they need a truck licence, but unlike what it sounds like it is NOT a Commercial Licence, but a rating for Drivers - LantleyNomad
Old-Biscuit wrote:
Maryland Drivers License 'Class Codes'
Which DL to you currently have?
Nice chart Biscuit. While I can't speak directly for the OP.
The average guy in MD has a standard class C license. Which is good for a non commercial combination up to 26001 based on the chart linked above. - Old-BiscuitExplorer III
- LantleyNomadAs Dutchmen pointed out you're fine in MD as long as the truck is not used for any business purpose.
Beware when towing trailer if your GCWR exceeds 26K you need an endorsement.
The 26K combined rule is seldom enforced but it's out there
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