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HMS_Beagle
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Apr 10, 2016

Just finished short trip with new truck....

All I can say is: wow.

The new truck is a 2015 F350 6.7L Lariat 2WD DRW 3.73 Supercab automatic. The old truck was a 1999 F350 7.3L Lariat 2WD DRW 3.73 Supercab automatic. In other words identical as they can be but for year. Same camper.

There were the expected improvements in creature comforts, the seats are more comfortable, climate control is nice, much quieter so you can hear the better stereo.

The main difference though is in the drivetrain which are worlds and decades apart:

860 ft lbs vs. 500
440 HP vs. 230
6 speed vs. 4
tow/haul mode vs. OD lockout
exhaust brake vs. not

Those are the specs. Driving it, there is a huge difference in power, all the time, any RPM, any situation. And a huge difference in transmission gear selection. Combined, it is a night and day difference in driving experience.

I drove to the coast and up CA 1 a bit, mostly used the tow/haul mode because it kept the revs up a bit more and downshifted sooner, this was useful on corners as much as grades, keeping the engine in the right range to accelerate out of the corner. It will aggressively downshift if you are on the brakes on a downslope. That would have been disconcerting with the 7.3L which made quite a fuss above around 2300 RPM, but the 6.7L revs freely and without fuss or much noise to 3500.

One section of side road over to Limatour spit has a short section marked with a warning sign. "17 percent grade". On my '99 this required 2nd gear with a heavy application of brakes till the bottom (was there with it 2 years ago). On the '15, I touched the brakes once momentarily and the combined downshift and exhaust brake easily slowed the rig, I ended up adding a little throttle to maintain speed to the bottom, no brakes required.

With the '99 I was about 300 lbs over GVWR (though under the GAWR at both ends). Though the '15 weighs more empty, I am about 1400 lbs under the GVWR loaded for a trip with the camper. The ride is a little better loaded than the '99, maybe a little worse unloaded.

These trucks cost a LOT of money and the smog controls are spectacularly complicated - but as long as it is working, it works really, really well.

  • You're preaching to the choir.
    It's not just a new truck - it's a highly advanced truck - light years ahead of the old 7.3 models.
  • Congrats. Glad the new truck worked out. They sure are pricey nowadays!
    How about a comparison on mpg?

    Thx, Bill
  • Thanks for posting this. I, for one, have resisted even the thought of upgrading my truck. I can't say I'm a Ford fan, but I'm willing to bet the switch from 07-16 might be similar. But your post was did get me thinking..
  • No change to the sway bars,but I did install Rancho 9000's and steering stabilizer ,upper stable loads and air bags. Only run 20 lbs in the air bags. Floorplan is great! Dinette table could be more stable. Just returned from a 3.5 month trip to Florida. Camper and truck performed flawlessly,but good to be home!

    Bob
  • ^^^ shoot, our rigs are practically twins! My camper is a 2008 10.4E too! Love the floorplan, but I am going to remodel the dinette one of these days.

    Have you done anything with the sway bars on yours? Really nice addition on mine (Hellwig Bigwig front/rear), 'sports car handling' might be a bit of a stretch but it is pretty good for an RV.


  • Congrats on the new truck! It's a well balanced rig with plenty of power and control.l've said "wow" a few times myself!

    Bob
  • I had the same experience when I picked up my used 2011 9 months ago. The power train difference is astounding with the 6.7L diesel and new tranny