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- spoon059Explorer III
demiles wrote:
Spoon059 did I read somewhere you had a Nash 22? Was it built in Winchester, VA?
Yes, I had a 1998 Nash 22H that was built in LaGrande, Oregon. The story is that an author from London flew to Oregon and bought the Nash and a truck and took a 6 month camping trip across the US and wrote a book about it. He then sold the trailer on the East Coast, which my wife's uncle eventually bought and outgrew. That is where we entered the production and bought it from her uncle and had that for 5 years until we outgrew it ourselves.
It was a great little trailer, well built, comfortable and solid. - demilesExplorerIn my opinion the GVWR rating is more about safety and long term reliability of the vehicle. How does overloading effect braking distance? Running overloaded all the time certainly would reduce component life and could cause premature failure. An occasional overload I really don't think is a big issue as long as caution is used. Of course the GVWR comes into play when you're talking commercial vehicles but that another story. The NHTSA requires these stickers on vehicles, it's up to the consumer to use common sense which is the problem.
- transamz9Explorer
Huntindog wrote:
jerem0621 wrote:
If you load more than what the silly sticker states into your truck.... And something goes wrong..... Say the rear axle has a problem etc.,,,,and you get it towed to the dealership... They will explain to you just what that silly sticker means to your silly warranty.
I love these show me your payload sticker threads.
The Titan XD is a beast. I look at those payload stickers and just kinda laugh at them...they are literally meaningless and only matter on the day these trucks are manufactured.
I test drove a 2014 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 crew cab Hemi this past weekend. Had my two man sized sons and my father with me...none of us are under 200 lbs...the sales man rode with us on the test drive as well...that was at least 1100 lbs of humans.... truck was awesome...handled amazing ... powerful...fast...cornered great. After the test drive I looked at the silly payload sticker and it said 950 lbs. According to RV.net I was a danger to society being 200 lbs overloaded...the real world said that truck wasn't even phased by the 1100 lbs in the cab. It would have comfortably handled 600 lbs or more worth of hitch weight with a weight distribution hitch and wouldn't have even blinked.
I once looked at a Ram 2500 MegaCab 4x4 Laramie Longhorn CTD with all he options (including fifth wheel prep) ...the silly sticker said 1750 lb of payload...I posted that fact here and someone pointed out that 1750 lbs in the bed would literally not even squat the truck. That fact is reflected in these silly payload stickers on the Titan XD as well...put 1500 lbs in the bed and it will barely squat.
Thanks!
Jeremiah
I've never had a warranty denied on any of our trucks because of going over the payload sticker and we have had plenty of trucks go in on the hook still loaded over their payload with just tools. - HuntindogExplorer
jerem0621 wrote:
If you load more than what the silly sticker states into your truck.... And something goes wrong..... Say the rear axle has a problem etc.,,,,and you get it towed to the dealership... They will explain to you just what that silly sticker means to your silly warranty.
I love these show me your payload sticker threads.
The Titan XD is a beast. I look at those payload stickers and just kinda laugh at them...they are literally meaningless and only matter on the day these trucks are manufactured.
I test drove a 2014 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 crew cab Hemi this past weekend. Had my two man sized sons and my father with me...none of us are under 200 lbs...the sales man rode with us on the test drive as well...that was at least 1100 lbs of humans.... truck was awesome...handled amazing ... powerful...fast...cornered great. After the test drive I looked at the silly payload sticker and it said 950 lbs. According to RV.net I was a danger to society being 200 lbs overloaded...the real world said that truck wasn't even phased by the 1100 lbs in the cab. It would have comfortably handled 600 lbs or more worth of hitch weight with a weight distribution hitch and wouldn't have even blinked.
I once looked at a Ram 2500 MegaCab 4x4 Laramie Longhorn CTD with all he options (including fifth wheel prep) ...the silly sticker said 1750 lb of payload...I posted that fact here and someone pointed out that 1750 lbs in the bed would literally not even squat the truck. That fact is reflected in these silly payload stickers on the Titan XD as well...put 1500 lbs in the bed and it will barely squat.
Thanks!
Jeremiah - otrfunExplorer II
jerem0621 wrote:
Jeremiah, I'm so, so, so glad you don't buy trucks for me or anybody I know. Have a good one :B
I love these show me your payload sticker threads.
The Titan XD is a beast. I look at those payload stickers and just kinda laugh at them...they are literally meaningless and only matter on the day these trucks are manufactured.
I test drove a 2014 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 crew cab Hemi this past weekend. Had my two man sized sons and my father with me...none of us are under 200 lbs...the sales man rode with us on the test drive as well...that was at least 1100 lbs of humans.... truck was awesome...handled amazing ... powerful...fast...cornered great. After the test drive I looked at the silly payload sticker and it said 950 lbs. According to RV.net I was a danger to society being 200 lbs overloaded...the real world said that truck wasn't even phased by the 1100 lbs in the cab. It would have comfortably handled 600 lbs or more worth of hitch weight with a weight distribution hitch and wouldn't have even blinked.
I once looked at a Ram 2500 MegaCab 4x4 Laramie Longhorn CTD with all he options (including fifth wheel prep) ...the silly sticker said 1750 lb of payload...I posted that fact here and someone pointed out that 1750 lbs in the bed would literally not even squat the truck. That fact is reflected in these silly payload stickers on the Titan XD as well...put 1500 lbs in the bed and it will barely squat.
Thanks!
Jeremiah - jerem0621Explorer III love these show me your payload sticker threads.
The Titan XD is a beast. I look at those payload stickers and just kinda laugh at them...they are literally meaningless and only matter on the day these trucks are manufactured.
I test drove a 2014 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 crew cab Hemi this past weekend. Had my two man sized sons and my father with me...none of us are under 200 lbs...the sales man rode with us on the test drive as well...that was at least 1100 lbs of humans.... truck was awesome...handled amazing ... powerful...fast...cornered great. After the test drive I looked at the silly payload sticker and it said 950 lbs. According to RV.net I was a danger to society being 200 lbs overloaded...the real world said that truck wasn't even phased by the 1100 lbs in the cab. It would have comfortably handled 600 lbs or more worth of hitch weight with a weight distribution hitch and wouldn't have even blinked.
I once looked at a Ram 2500 MegaCab 4x4 Laramie Longhorn CTD with all he options (including fifth wheel prep) ...the silly sticker said 1750 lb of payload...I posted that fact here and someone pointed out that 1750 lbs in the bed would literally not even squat the truck. That fact is reflected in these silly payload stickers on the Titan XD as well...put 1500 lbs in the bed and it will barely squat.
Thanks!
Jeremiah - otrfunExplorer II
demiles wrote:
Demiles, there are brochures with best-case payload ratings, and there are door jam payload stickers on realworld, everyday trucks on a dealer's lot. I've never seen a Nissan XD Cummins with more than 1,700 lbs. of payload on a dealer lot. None of the more than 15 Nissan XD Titan gas trucks at our local Nissan dealer had more than 2,475 lbs. of payload. And yes, they were XD's because they had NO EPA ratings on the window sticker.otrfun wrote:
You must be looking at the regular Titan. The 2017 single cab gas Titan XD 4x2 S trim goes as high as 2,900lbs payload.demiles wrote:
It's my understanding a bare-bones "S", regular cab, 4x2, Nissan Cummins has a payload of 2,000 lbs. At 1,900 lbs. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess your truck is a regular cab, 4X2 with 100 lbs. of fancier SV trim?
Yes that's what my door sticker says. Mine is a SV 4x2 and the gas version of my truck would hit 2500 lb payload.
With some of the massive discounts I've seen on the Titan XD's, I think the 5.6 gas XD Titan has the best chance of building a solid, long-term following. It uses the already debugged and proven 5.6 Infiniti engine and tranny which gets a respectable ~15/~21 EPA MPG in the standard, non-XD Titan. FWIW, the 4x4, crew cab, 5.6 gas, XD Titans at the local dealer had about 2,200 lbs. of payload. Now that's the kind of payload that earns legitimate braggin' rights as a real tweener IMO.
https://www.nissanusa.com/trucks/titan-xd/versions-specs
BTW, is your truck a crew or regular cab? Happen to have a pic of your door jam payload sticker handy? - demilesExplorer
otrfun wrote:
demiles wrote:
It's my understanding a bare-bones "S", regular cab, 4x2, Nissan Cummins has a payload of 2,000 lbs. At 1,900 lbs. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess your truck is a regular cab, 4X2 with 100 lbs. of fancier SV trim?
Yes that's what my door sticker says. Mine is a SV 4x2 and the gas version of my truck would hit 2500 lb payload.
With some of the massive discounts I've seen on the Titan XD's, I think the 5.6 gas XD Titan has the best chance of building a solid, long-term following. It uses the already debugged and proven 5.6 Infiniti engine and tranny which gets a respectable ~15/~21 EPA MPG in the standard, non-XD Titan. FWIW, the 4x4, crew cab, 5.6 gas, XD Titans at the local dealer had about 2,200 lbs. of payload. Now that's the kind of payload that earns legitimate braggin' rights as a real tweener IMO.
You must be looking at the regular Titan. The 2017 single cab gas Titan XD 4x2 S trim goes as high as 2,900lbs payload.
https://www.nissanusa.com/trucks/titan-xd/versions-specs - demilesExplorerThat price could be good or bad depending on the trim level. If it's a Pro4X or an SL that's not bad but an SV or a S trim should be lower. That grad thing is BS, mine was advertised on the internet at 33,200 with the grad, military, and Nissan loyalty discounts and I don't qualify for any of them. I told them if they sold it to me at that price I'd buy it now and they did. Sheehy even added they're maintenance package for free too, but I doubt I'll use it.
Spoon059 did I read somewhere you had a Nash 22? Was it built in Winchester, VA? - otrfunExplorer II
demiles wrote:
It's my understanding a bare-bones "S", regular cab, 4x2, Nissan Cummins has a payload of 2,000 lbs. At 1,900 lbs. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess your truck is a regular cab, 4X2 with 100 lbs. of fancier SV trim?
Yes that's what my door sticker says. Mine is a SV 4x2 and the gas version of my truck would hit 2500 lb payload.
With some of the massive discounts I've seen on the Titan XD's, I think the 5.6 gas XD Titan has the best chance of building a solid, long-term following. It uses the already debugged and proven 5.6 Infiniti engine and tranny which gets a respectable ~15/~21 EPA MPG in the standard, non-XD Titan. FWIW, the 4x4, crew cab, 5.6 gas, XD Titans at the local dealer had about 2,200 lbs. of payload. Now that's the kind of payload that earns legitimate braggin' rights as a real tweener IMO.
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