Major Repairs

Grit dog wrote:
That's another way to look at it. Over the recent years, gasses have gotten simpler (not the electronics, but in general, maint and repairs IMO. Open the hood on a new V8 gasser truck and then the same in a diesel. Diesel looks like the parts bin threw up under the hood and they made a place to pack every piece in!

There's one new diesel that doesn't look too bad; it has 2 less cylinders than the other 2..... :B

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"ask my cousin who recently had his insurance pay to replace his entire fuel system on his Cummins due to water in the fuel."

I would assume his Insurance or the Fuel station would have paid for the repairs, does this have anything to do with the durability of the basically bullet proof CP3 pump?

I pumped 30 gallons water along with 5 gallons diesel into my 98 12V. The station paid me for my time and materials plus a full tank of fuel.

YES my water in fuel light came on!!!

Are you saying he bought a 17 Ford because he obtained contaminated fuel in his Cummins powered truck????

You would be right to assume his insurance paid for the repairs on his Ram...as it would if his new Ford was denied warranty repairs due to water in the fuel. See how that works??

You all talk about these Ram's like they never need a repair. He has receipts for over $35,000 in repairs on his Rams in the last 19 years and 350,000 miles

I'm saying even after having owned Rams for the last 19 years, and knowing about this supposedly epidemic failure rate of this flimsy CP-4, he bought a new 17' F350.....go figure!

That's another way to look at it. Over the recent years, gasses have gotten simpler (not the electronics, but in general, maint and repairs IMO. Open the hood on a new V8 gasser truck and then the same in a diesel. Diesel looks like the parts bin threw up under the hood and they made a place to pack every piece in!

I personally would love the power of a new diesel. But the new Gassers are Not to be underestimated. They are very powerful, often tipping 400 lb ft of tq and near or over 400 hp.

For me, I like simplicity and reliability which is why I have chosen gas motors so far. I don't mind paying a little more for fuel for some peace of mind. However, I am not one to think that gassers are not complicated pieces of modern technology. They most certainly are and they can get pretty expensive to repair as well. Its just for the same price as fuel system replacement on some diesel models you can have a brand new engine sitting between the frame rails of the gasser.

Something I love about the time we live in is that we have choices. There is literally a truck for every single job that we consumers can think of.

From Commuter trucks to tugs that can pull 30,000 lbs. We can buy whatever we want/need.

For me, If my load is going to be sub 10,000 lbs. I am going to run a gas motor. If over that, I will consider a diesel.

But I am a typical half ton truck owner who mostly uses my truck to commute in. I want and need the occasional need to tow a decent load. Most of the other time I need a comfortable truck that is easy on fuel, easy to drive every day, and fairly reliable/cheaper to fix.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

ducksquasher wrote:
When the fuel pumps go out...how do they destroy the rest of the fuel system? Why is it different with a Cummins?

Because a Cummins is so tough that you could feed it rusty bolts and old French fry oil and it would chew that sh_t up and spit it out all while getting 20mpg up hill pulling a 5ver!
Honestly, idk. Something about the Bosch CP4 pump used in other vehicles, if it fails it can send stuff down stream to the injectors, taking them out too.

When the fuel pumps go out...how do they destroy the rest of the fuel system? Why is it different with a Cummins?

Groover wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

ib516 wrote:
Any of the big 3s (Ford, Ram, GM) newest diesels would be extremely pricey to repair out of warranty. Example: I had a 2002 Ram/Cummins. I bought 6 new Bosch brand injectors ("RV275" injectotors for more power) for it for $350 (CDN). I'm pretty sure a new injector for a 2017 model of truck would be $1000+ each no matter the brand. And they do wear out.

That kind of thing is one of the reasons I went with a 6.4L Hemi in 2014 after owning 2 diesels.

I can get new Bosch injectors for $536 each.

From what I have heard the collateral damage of a failed pump far exceeds the cost of the pump itself. Unless you start changing pumps as part of routine PM program it is the collateral damage that gets you.

Pumps on the Cummins don't take out everything like the others. The Cummins is what I was quoting.

transamz9 wrote:

ib516 wrote:
Any of the big 3s (Ford, Ram, GM) newest diesels would be extremely pricey to repair out of warranty. Example: I had a 2002 Ram/Cummins. I bought 6 new Bosch brand injectors ("RV275" injectotors for more power) for it for $350 (CDN). I'm pretty sure a new injector for a 2017 model of truck would be $1000+ each no matter the brand. And they do wear out.

That kind of thing is one of the reasons I went with a 6.4L Hemi in 2014 after owning 2 diesels.

I can get new Bosch injectors for $536 each.

From what I have heard the collateral damage of a failed pump far exceeds the cost of the pump itself. Unless you start changing pumps as part of routine PM program it is the collateral damage that gets you.

ib516 wrote:
Any of the big 3s (Ford, Ram, GM) newest diesels would be extremely pricey to repair out of warranty. Example: I had a 2002 Ram/Cummins. I bought 6 new Bosch brand injectors ("RV275" injectotors for more power) for it for $350 (CDN). I'm pretty sure a new injector for a 2017 model of truck would be $1000+ each no matter the brand. And they do wear out.

That kind of thing is one of the reasons I went with a 6.4L Hemi in 2014 after owning 2 diesels.

I can get new Bosch injectors for $536 each.

Any of the big 3s (Ford, Ram, GM) newest diesels would be extremely pricey to repair out of warranty. Example: I had a 2002 Ram/Cummins. I bought 6 new Bosch brand injectors ("RV275" injectotors for more power) for it for $350 (CDN). I'm pretty sure a new injector for a 2017 model of truck would be $1000+ each no matter the brand. And they do wear out.

That kind of thing is one of the reasons I went with a 6.4L Hemi in 2014 after owning 2 diesels.