Michelin Tires

Fast Mopar wrote:

travelnutz wrote:
I will have nothing but Michelin LTX MS and now MS/2 on our diesel and gas trucks and Michelins on our SUV's etc since 1993.

Interesting comment. Michelin makes some tires in the US, but Michelin is a French company. You have many times spoken poorly of people who do not support US companies. Goodyear is a US company. Goodyear makes tires in the US and also in other countries, but it is still a US company. Goodyear produces their own rubber in the US for use in those plants. Argue if you want, but this is the business I am in, and these are the facts.

It's your money, and you can certainly choose to spend it any way you want. That's the great thing about living in the US. However, it seems rather inconsistent to speak poorly of people who purchase FCA vehicles because FCA is an Italian company, yet at the same time you buy tires from a French company.

Sorry to hijack the thread, but sometimes I get tired of these inconsistencies.

Inconsistencies you think ?? They buy USA when it suits them, and not when it doesn't .
Read the Ram Mafia comments on the Michelins, and then see them put down the Sailuns for the fifth wheels ,which IMO are a much better tire, and at half the price of Goodyear G614's . What I find hilarious about all this is the comment " The Goodyears are made in the USA " all the while driving a Fiat Ram ,and running Michelin tires on it. Now go figure that :h

As far as Michelins go I guess they give great service, but my experience has been terrible, poor mileage sidewall cracking etc. Its well documented on the cracking ,there is no denying that. Never had a tire with sidewall cracks other then Michelin. Even the Firestones, although they have terrible wear, they did not have any cracks.

travelnutz wrote:
I will have nothing but Michelin LTX MS and now MS/2 on our diesel and gas trucks and Michelins on our SUV's etc since 1993.

Interesting comment. Michelin makes some tires in the US, but Michelin is a French company. You have many times spoken poorly of people who do not support US companies. Goodyear is a US company. Goodyear makes tires in the US and also in other countries, but it is still a US company. Goodyear produces their own rubber in the US for use in those plants. Argue if you want, but this is the business I am in, and these are the facts.

It's your money, and you can certainly choose to spend it any way you want. That's the great thing about living in the US. However, it seems rather inconsistent to speak poorly of people who purchase FCA vehicles because FCA is an Italian company, yet at the same time you buy tires from a French company.

Sorry to hijack the thread, but sometimes I get tired of these inconsistencies.

First, but them from Costco or Sams. You can't beat their prices or their extra benefits.

Both clubs will have 2 different Michelin truck tires, one that are better suited for highway and one that are better suited for "Mud and snow" (note the quotations !). The M&S tires work fine on the highway, but are noisier.

Grit dog wrote:
I've run the gamut with truck tires over the last 20 years. Between personal and company pickups somewhere around 30-40 sets of tires just on my rigs with little brand loyalty. (Company card, those tires look cool, let's try them out!). Not counting tires before then, but the BFG AT has somehow stood the test of time.
My top 5 in no particular order.
Toyo
BFG
Goodyear
Pro Comp
Cooper

Bottom 5, again in no particular order and not saying they're horrible.
Mickey T
Michelin
Firestone
Ok only got 3!

This tire thing is funny !! My bottom two are the same as you Michelin, and Firestone.

Never run Toyo's or Coopers, but on my short list for the next set on my Ram.

BFG's have been as good as any on my trucks that I have ran. It's going to be hard to stay away from them when these OEM Firestone Transforce HT's are worn out which won't be long, maybe I'll get 30K if lucky.

Had at least 8 sets of Michelins on our tow vehicles and our other vehicles over the years and NONE of them ever had any cracks develop on the sidewalls or the tread areas. One set had a little over 108K on them and still had over 3mm or 1/8" tread left on the most worn area and no cracks but I never run to tires to bald!

Our 1993 2500 truck had 102K on the Michelin tires which replaced the OEM tires when I sold the truck, no cracks! Our 2500HD Diesel CC Long Box 4X4 truck in my signature is on it's second set of Michelins put on 2 years ago and at nearly 200K total on the truck, no cracks! The first set on Michelin 265/75/16 "E" replacement tires on the diesel truck had 97,561 miles on them but were worn to between 4mm and one reading of 3mm and we were going to pull the 5th wheel to Florida as usual so they were replaced, no cracks and I'd even sent several close up pics to a member on this forum of the tires just before replacement which showed they had zero cracks. The OEM Bridgestones on the diesel truck were showing steel belts at less than 40K on them. These 2 pickups were/are only used for heavy loaded RV'ing since they were ordered new.

Neither truck was ever garaged or carport covered either at all and I never have used any "tire shine etc - chemicals" on my tires. Our SUV and the car occupy the garage and a boat is in the 3rd stall. All tires on our vehicles are always kept at max inflation as in like 80 PSI in the "E" tires. Still an excellent ride in the GM trucks at max inflation.

I have no idea what some people do, put on, or whatever to cause their tires to crack. I do know that car washes almost always use tire shine etc sprays products on tires when you get the better higher priced washes as a close friend of ours owned 3 of them and said it's just normal. Most vehicle owners do not even realize this!

For those here that have had good luck with Michelin tires I tip my hat. I bought LTX tires 4 years ago and 2 look like the picture posted by BenK. A 3rd tire has been replaced due to a nail puncture in the tread that couldn't be fixed and the 4th was also punctured in the sidewall and replaced. These were in different years so not related. That is more punctures then I have ever had and more cracking then any other brand of tire.

I've run the gamut with truck tires over the last 20 years. Between personal and company pickups somewhere around 30-40 sets of tires just on my rigs with little brand loyalty. (Company card, those tires look cool, let's try them out!). Not counting tires before then, but the BFG AT has somehow stood the test of time.
My top 5 in no particular order.
Toyo
BFG
Goodyear
Pro Comp
Cooper

Bottom 5, again in no particular order and not saying they're horrible.
Mickey T
Michelin
Firestone
Ok only got 3!

Tire opinions are like A holes.....Everyone has one and they all stink!
And even old opinions can die hard. Me, never been a Firecrap fan.
But I've got some good (read: overloaded) miles on a set of OE Transforce ATs right now. Yes their horrible in wet Cascade snow. Most tires are, these are extra sucky, but I knew that just looking at the tread design and I chose not to sipe them due to treadwear carrying the camper.
Haven't had any Craigslist love when it comes to finding a good set of winter tires for this year cause the ones I got will not be heading up the mtn this winter. But, given the rugged service I've gotten out of the Tforces, I will likely be getting a set of destination MTs. Can't beat $900 for a 3600lb rated 34" tall 20" rim heavy mud tire. Siping will be required though.

Mother-in-law had Michelin tires, 3 years old, 12,000 miles, no tire dressing, kept in the garage. They cracked so bad that one of them blew the sidewall out just sitting in the garage. Got a new set of Goodyear tires last month.

hedgehopper wrote:
Our Dodge is sporting a new set of Michelin Defender LTX M/S tires and a set of extended valve stems from Chuck the Tire Man. The installation was done by our local Discount Tire. So far we are happy with the tires, the valve stems, and the installation. With the extended valve stems, checking and adjusting pressures is a piece of cake, even with the dually tires.

With three months and several thousand miles on the tires and valve stems, I am still satisfied. Of course it remains to be seen how the treads will wear and if dry rot becomes a problem.