Mixed bag for Sept sales figures

mooky stinks wrote:
Thats funny I've always heard of them referred to as the BIG 3 not the BIG 3 + GMC. But whatever way it makes your math look better!

Take it up with GM. I believe when Ford was doing the Lincoln truck it was not counted with F-series sales.

Have nothing against GM - they make a fine truck. It is how they and the industry choose to count sales. On the flip side if combining them makes you feel better have at it as well. :)

itguy08 wrote:

mooky stinks wrote:

2:1 huh? I guess you're not counting GMC as being made by GM?

Nope, GM doesn't count it, the auto rags don't count it, it's separate. And yes my back of the head math was off - needed the calculator for this one...

F-series 559,506
Chevy 350,775
Ram 262,787

Chevy: 350,775/559,506 = .626 or 62.6% of Ford's sales
Ram: 262,787/559,506 = .469 or 46.9% of Ford's sales

And just for S&G:
Chevy + GMC (135,670) = 486,445
486,445/559,506 = .869 or 86.9% of Ford's sales

. Thats funny I've always heard of them referred to as the BIG 3 not the BIG 3 + GMC. But whatever way it makes your math look better!

mooky stinks wrote:

2:1 huh? I guess you're not counting GMC as being made by GM?

Nope, GM doesn't count it, the auto rags don't count it, it's separate. And yes my back of the head math was off - needed the calculator for this one...

F-series 559,506
Chevy 350,775
Ram 262,787

Chevy: 350,775/559,506 = .626 or 62.6% of Ford's sales
Ram: 262,787/559,506 = .469 or 46.9% of Ford's sales

And just for S&G:
Chevy + GMC (135,670) = 486,445
486,445/559,506 = .869 or 86.9% of Ford's sales

GM reacts

That didnt take long

mooky stinks wrote:

itguy08 wrote:

Vulcaneer wrote:

That will be sure to change next month. Nobody will be buying the 2014 Fords. Everybody will be waiting for the 2015 Model year Ford.

Really? Who is going to delay a truck purchase a year to wait for the next one? Especially since I'd bet F-350 sales are a small piece of the whole pie.

When you outsell your closest competitor almost 2:1 and the distant 3rd by an even larger margin (close to 3:1) it's doubtful you will loose many sales on those waiting. And if they wait you'll have great sales of your new model.

I am surprised GM is down... Ram is loosing its lustre.

2:1 huh? I guess you're not counting GMC as being made by GM?

Math isn't his best subject I guess, making kool-aid he's real good at.
Ford 559,506 YTD. Ram 262,787 x 2= 525,574. Yeah that's almost 3:1 :B

itguy08 wrote:

Vulcaneer wrote:

That will be sure to change next month. Nobody will be buying the 2014 Fords. Everybody will be waiting for the 2015 Model year Ford.

Really? Who is going to delay a truck purchase a year to wait for the next one? Especially since I'd bet F-350 sales are a small piece of the whole pie.

When you outsell your closest competitor almost 2:1 and the distant 3rd by an even larger margin (close to 3:1) it's doubtful you will loose many sales on those waiting. And if they wait you'll have great sales of your new model.

I am surprised GM is down... Ram is loosing its lustre.

2:1 huh? I guess you're not counting GMC as being made by GM?

I guess it just shows that no one wants a discounted GM truck and they don't have the new 14's in enough quantity. Or the do have 14' and no one want them either.

Vulcaneer wrote:

That will be sure to change next month. Nobody will be buying the 2014 Fords. Everybody will be waiting for the 2015 Model year Ford.

Really? Who is going to delay a truck purchase a year to wait for the next one? Especially since I'd bet F-350 sales are a small piece of the whole pie.

When you outsell your closest competitor almost 2:1 and the distant 3rd by an even larger margin (close to 3:1) it's doubtful you will loose many sales on those waiting. And if they wait you'll have great sales of your new model.

I am surprised GM is down... Ram is loosing its lustre.

ib516 wrote:
LINK to the pickuptrucks.com numbers for September 2013...

Ram and Ford up
GM,Chevy and Toyota down

That will be sure to change next month. Nobody will be buying the 2014 Fords. Everybody will be waiting for the 2015 Model year Ford.

They shot themselves in the foot with that Heavyweight test. Sure to kill their 2014 SD sales. And won't hurt RAM or GM sales either. No sales stolen from competitors. Because Ford didn't test against the 2014 Model year Ram's or GM twins.

Dummy's.

jbardram wrote:

Engineer9860 wrote:

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

ib516 wrote:
GM truck sales dropping even after the redesign of their pickups?

That's going to make someone "nuts"...

GM was not offering many incentives on new trucks, and are almost out of 2013s. They took a strategic approach. Now truck shoppers will be forced into the 2014s.

This is one reason. Another reason is that GM is still only building the 2014 in a crew cab. The regular cab which is what the commercial buyers will want is just starting to be built.

You sure about that? I saw two '14 Sierra reg cabs at my local dealer this past Sunday while driving through their lot

They are out there, just not in numbers, and not in significant numbers to effect September sales.