More diesel news; when it rains............

elkhornsun wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
More diesels bound for US market.

This sucks. Diesel is about 10 cents higher then regular around here. :) If every soccer mom in the US gets a diesel it will drive #2 up, up, up and out of sight. :M

Supply and demand has little to do with the price of gas or diesel in the USA. Fully a 30% of the cost goes to the same Wall Street speculators that tanked the US economy. Another 15% goes to fuel taxes.

The automakers are moving to diesel to improve their fleet average MPG to meet Federal CAFE requirements while still selling larger and heavier and more profitable trucks and cars. Overall I see it as very positive as it could mean more gas stations selling diesel. In the western USA about 20% of the stations have diesel and many at higher than premium prices as there is no competition in their area.

The real cost of motor fuel is the $3 trillion wars we are fighting for the international oil companies so they can exploit the energy resources of Afghanistan and Iraq. And there will be the cost in future years of treating millions of vets with cancers caused by our military's use of radioactive ammunition.

:h Hmmmmm, that's funny, when TOSCO or Richmond CUSA goes off line for a shutdown or a fire or whatever, prices in my area go up 50+ cents over night.

I personally think USA crude should be treated like a national security risk. Crude or boiled down product(gas or diesel) should not be exported. If it's found and made in the USA, it should stay here.

Here's an interesting take on the new diesel movement from Pickuptrucks.com.

Still, the biggest hurdles may not be consumer driven. Diesel is not recognized by the government as an "alternative fuel," so companies producing and selling diesel engines do not qualify for subsidies like electric, hydrogen or hybrid technologies do. If that changes, we could see the costs for diesel fuel and diesel engine technology drop considerably.

We predict that as people recognize the strengths of diesel engines and fuel, and as more people get a chance to experience their torquey powertrains, the numbers could grow faster than predicted. And when the first company to sell a decent diesel hybrid in the U.S. succeeds, the momentum will build even faster. Of course, when we have more fuel-efficient vehicles on the road — thereby reducing tax revenues for city, state and federal governments — you can bet government will find another way to squeeze money from our transportation cost savings.

If I drove short trips of 15 minutes or less daily, I would be looking at an electric vehicle.

PARK IT...

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
More diesels bound for US market.

This sucks. Diesel is about 10 cents higher then regular around here. :) If every soccer mom in the US gets a diesel it will drive #2 up, up, up and out of sight. :M

Supply and demand has little to do with the price of gas or diesel in the USA. Fully a 30% of the cost goes to the same Wall Street speculators that tanked the US economy. Another 15% goes to fuel taxes.

The automakers are moving to diesel to improve their fleet average MPG to meet Federal CAFE requirements while still selling larger and heavier and more profitable trucks and cars. Overall I see it as very positive as it could mean more gas stations selling diesel. In the western USA about 20% of the stations have diesel and many at higher than premium prices as there is no competition in their area.

The real cost of motor fuel is the $3 trillion wars we are fighting for the international oil companies so they can exploit the energy resources of Afghanistan and Iraq. And there will be the cost in future years of treating millions of vets with cancers caused by our military's use of radioactive ammunition.

On the bright side, the first new refinery built in the US since 1973 IS under construction in North Dakota.

Being built in the SW area of the state, near Dickinson ND.

Due to the Bakken oil boom there, the plan is for this refinery to specialize in production of, drum roll please :B , diesel fuel.

Many do not know, but diesel fuel is one of the substances used in the fracking of all those oil wells being drilled in North Dakota. In addition, anyone traveling in western North Dakota can surely attest to the incredible number of semi trucks operating in the area, which also need the diesel.

So perhaps with a local source in place for Bakken operations, the diesel supply will loosen some for the rest of the country, and hopefully, keep the price at a decent level.

With the price of diesel higher than gasoline in most parts of the country, diesel engine option costing a significant amount, the cost of oil changes and other maintenance higher, and gasoline engines now achieving impressive MPG's, there isn't a pay back on the diesel until usually 150,000 miles plus!!!!!!

well now that were about to fight in another country AGAIN, oil has rose to a all time high gas should hit $4.a gal real quick. yet the news guy say we export more oil than we import.

skyhammer wrote:
Here in NW CA., diesel has been 5 cents cheaper or the same as regular gas since Jan.

Your turn is coming:(

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
More diesels bound for US market.

This sucks. Diesel is about 10 cents higher then regular around here. :) If every soccer mom in the US gets a diesel it will drive #2 up, up, up and out of sight. :M

Isn't this supposed to go in the stickys Fuel Complaints thread? :S