My 2017 quest for the perfect TT!

keymastr wrote:
First rule everyone learns when shopping for a trailer is to watch out for soft floors. If you have to keep saying that they were soft from the factory and that is just how they are built, you are telling them that it was a poor design that sacrificed too much in the name of saving weight. I would find a way to fix the floor or just lower your price to the market average and move on.

You seem to be finding reasons to blame others for it not selling and continue to make excuses for the ONLY flaw your trailer has. I would never buy a trailer with a floor like that because I simply don't like the feeling. Makes no difference if it was intended that way. Chief reason not to buy an ultra light in my opinion.

Price it right and it will be gone today.

Please stop accusing me of "Making Excuses". I would appreciate it. I tell things the way the are. My TT is a 2005 that is 12 years old. It has a soft floor and has had a soft floor from the day I bought it. That is the way things ARE. It is not an excuse.

But what is unreasonable, is to expect a 12 year old brand new trailer, but want to get it for almost free.

Ya'll keep talking about, "Pricing it right", but you offer no advice about how to do that. I posted the NADA pricing sheet and asked you if was trust worthy, but got not one single comment on that.

It just seems that I am getting more "Criticisms" then constructive advice from you guys. I did not ask for you guys to come on here and tell me how much you hate Ultra-Lites and how my TT is worthless because it is an Ultra-Lite. I ask for help in selling it, but some of you are treating me like an enemy because I want to sell it, because you have a personal hatred for Ultra-Lite.

I may not have much sales experience, but I will sale this TT for a reasonable price for the market it is in. Right now at $6,000 it is priced way lower then any other TTs in it's class on the market. I am willing to negotiate and go lower, but I am not going to give it away for free. It is an Ultra-Lite and for people to expect it to be anything else is unreasonable.

Screening the scammers who are asking for a check for you to pay shipping costs for their carrier to come pick it type bs is a different issue and just part of getting FREE advertising. Just forget it and delete that stuff. Go put it on there for $5200 and forget all the other stuff. It's not as personal as you are making it. It's like a flow chart or a trouble shooting chart.

If you want it gone NOW put it on there for $4000 today only bring cash and accept $3500. If you want $6000 or anything close keep torturing yourself and end up with it still sitting there. Just being honest. It socks but it is what it is.

You might consider posting on RV Trader rather than on CL. My guess (and it's just a guess) is that shoppers there will be more serious. And anytime I post anything on CL, I get scammers contacting me. Doesn't matter what you list on CL, that will happen.

There's a seat for every rear.

jungleexplorer wrote:
So here is a question. I had five people come look at it yesterday. Wasted my whole day showing it and none of them had the money to buy it in hand when they came. Is it unreasonable to require people to have cash in their hand before the can come look at the TT? What you think about me adding this statement to my ads?


"Asking $6,000 but willing to negotiate. Cash Only. Must have Cash in hand to come see it."

Yes cash in hand is unrealistic in today's world. Most people are scared to carry $100 let alone $6,000 to go look at trailers for a few weeks.

More than likely you will be hauling the trailer down to their bank to to get money and transfer title.

Instead of wasting all day... schedule all showings at the same time during maybe a 1 hour window.

rjxj wrote:
How do you know they dont have the money? Dont assume that if a dumpy looking guy looks at it that he's broke. I have worked with people who literally couldn't sign their name but owned a block of rental houses. It's not your issue if they come to look at it to buy and resell it. You are treating it more as HR guy screening people rather than an rv do it yerselfer seller. Maybe you could take it to a consignment lot if you aren't cut out for the Craigslist environment.

List it
Show it
Agree on price
They hand you cash

You hand them clear title and hand written bill of sale with price saying NO guarantees on anything

They hook up and leave

Short fat tall skinny black white Mex dumb beautiful stinky ugly, take their money give them RV, go buy another RV.

I only know what they told me. If they lied to me about their situation, that is on them. And yes, I am "Screening" people because I don't want people wasting me time playing games. Since I started the journey to sell my truck and TT, I have actually been contacted by more Scammers and swindling dealers then private parties.

Am I wrong to want to screen out scammers that want to steal my identity and empty my bank account?

Am I wrong to not want to have to deal with fast talking, arrogant, belligerent dealers that try to make you feel like an idiot and that belittle what you have to sale to make you think it is total garbage so you will give to them for free?

Truth is, I have not sold a car or anything since the 1990s. Back then it used to be so simple. You took out an ad in the paper, people came and bought your stuff. Most people had still had some common courtesy back then and lived by a much higher moral standard back and generally treated each other with respect. Today though, you have ten scammers for every real person and people have buried the bar acceptability for human behavior below the ground. There are no standards of acceptability that people have to live up to anymore and the idea of "Common Courtesy" being "COMMON" is so foreign to most modern Americans, that it might as well be a myth.

Well, call me old school but I still live by those old high standards even if no one else does, because I believe they were a lot better then what we have today.

"Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things that a man needs to believe in the most: that people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; that love, true love, never dies... No matter if they're true or not, a man should believe in those things because those are the things worth believing in." Hub (Second Hand Lions)

First rule everyone learns when shopping for a trailer is to watch out for soft floors. If you have to keep saying that they were soft from the factory and that is just how they are built, you are telling them that it was a poor design that sacrificed too much in the name of saving weight. I would find a way to fix the floor or just lower your price to the market average and move on.

You seem to be finding reasons to blame others for it not selling and continue to make excuses for the ONLY flaw your trailer has. I would never buy a trailer with a floor like that because I simply don't like the feeling. Makes no difference if it was intended that way. Chief reason not to buy an ultra light in my opinion.

Price it right and it will be gone today.

$6,000 is obviously too high since you haven't sold it yet.

Selling is easy. You either wait forever at your higher price or sell it quicker at a lower one. Basically, do you want a slow dime or a fast nickel.

Looking at NADA you should be selling it at the low retail...not the high one.

Your photos are fine...don't worry about them at all.

How do you know they dont have the money? Dont assume that if a dumpy looking guy looks at it that he's broke. I have worked with people who literally couldn't sign their name but owned a block of rental houses. It's not your issue if they come to look at it to buy and resell it. You are treating it more as HR guy screening people rather than an rv do it yerselfer seller. Maybe you could take it to a consignment lot if you aren't cut out for the Craigslist environment.

List it
Show it
Agree on price
They hand you cash

You hand them clear title and hand written bill of sale with price saying NO guarantees on anything

They hook up and leave

Short fat tall skinny black white Mex dumb beautiful stinky ugly, take their money give them RV, go buy another RV.

rjxj wrote:

jungleexplorer wrote:
So here is a question. I had five people come look at it yesterday. Wasted my whole day showing it and none of them had the money to buy it in hand when they came. Is it unreasonable to require people to have cash in their hand before the can come look at the TT? What you think about me adding this statement to my ads?


"Asking $6,000 but willing to negotiate. Cash Only. Must have Cash in hand to come see it."

You wont have anyone looking at it if you do that. Again, I'm not being mean but you are making this too complicated. It's none of your business if they have the cash in their pocket or if they have to get a loan. If they did want to buy it and said it will take a week to get the money you can either say give me a deposit or wait for the next guy. If you cant live with the time frame dont accept it. If they back out just give the deposit back and move on.

One of the first people to look at my sons TT was a couple young oil field guys who wanted to live in it. They gave him $200 deposit and said he'd be back in a week. A few days later they called and said they couldn't come up with that much money. My son said fine come and get your deposit. Stuff happens in peoples lives so he wasn't going to demand he keep their deposit. Treat people the way you want to be treated.

Put the pics in the ad, say a little about it, mention that it's a lightweight and that they will notice that the floor is soft because of the construction design. Put the price and OBO. When they get there tell them a little about it and let them look at it without bird dogging them. Tell them you will be in the garage or something and yell if they have any questions. Most of the times that I have looked at something and the person was up my rear they WERE hiding stuff.

If you dont find a buyer who is willing to research soft laminate floor issues and accept it you may end up selling it to a buyer who thinks it's messed up and he can live with it or fix it and it will be at HIS price. If you cant live with that just forget about selling it and go buy another. I have seen stuff lay around for so long it rots into the ground because the guy is damned if he'll take a cent less than X. Who did he screw? HIMSELF. A is A and B is B. It is what it is!! Sorry but it's just not complicated. You are selling it for FREE not hundreds of dollars in advertising either. AND it has no slide.

My prediction: it will sell for $4000 to $4,500

I hear what you are saying, and I agree that I will reduce people that come and look at it, but that is the point. Time is money, and I have better things to do then to waste days upon days showing it to people who have no ability to buy it. They are wasting my time. I am not being mean here either. I only expect to be treated with the same respect I have treated others all my life. I have never once in my entire life ever went to look at a car or anything to buy from a private seller, not having the money I was willing to pay for it in my pocket. Why? Because I consider it rude and disrespectful to waste other people's time. I do it that way because, I treat people the way I want to be treated. The Golden Rule.

Four of the five people that came out yesterday had never owned an RV before and were just looking because my TT is so much lower priced then other RVs in my area because of what I call the "Oil Field Inflation". They were just shoppers, not buyers, (The fifth guy, I believe was a dealer, from his arrogant belligerent attitude). Now there is nothing wrong with shopping, but there are places to shop for RVs. They are call Dealerships that have salesmen that are paid to spend their day showing TT to shoppers. I believe it is wrong to treat Private Sellers like they are dealerships. I don't do it and I don't expect it to be done to me.

I know you think I am making it too complicated, and maybe I am. I am a complex person. But if I did not make it complicated, then this fun conversation that were are having would end and we would have nothing left to talk about. ;)

Other examples of what you may be up against:

$3,500 OBO

$5000

Smaller but $4800

$4500

$4500


If you are willing to take $5000 put your price at $5200. You will get offers of $4500 and you come back at $4800 or $4900. If they hesitate or flinch and you really want it gone then quickly say ok I'll take $4600. Worse case is that you will have to post it at $4500 and get $4200 or $4300.

If you list it at $5200 you are going to be close to selling it. Again, $4 to $4500 is my bet. It's only a grand less than your bottom line. What's a grand when we are talking RV's?