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peejaykay
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Dec 01, 2013

New 3/4 CC Dmax payload cap terrible!

I'm researching tow vehicles, and I discovered that when a 2014 Silverado 2500 HD is configured w/Diesel, Crew Cab 4x4 and Long Bed, the payload capacity drops to a pitiful 2552 lbs.

Which basically limits me to a 9klb "real world" loaded weight 5th wheel. That's terrible. How did I come up with 9k, you ask?

9000 x 25% = 2250 pin weight, loaded. Even if it was less, 20%, that's 1800lbs.

1800lbs + me (180) + wife (120) + kid (50) + dog (50) + stuff (300) + fuel (36gals * 7.15lbs/gal= 260lbs) = 2760lbs

So even at 20%, I have busted the payload capacity. Nevermind that the towing capacity for a 2500HD diesel is around 15K. That means nothing, if you bust the payload capacity when you hook up a loaded 9klb 5th wheel.

80 Replies

  • Oh, you do realize those max tow ratings are with a single 150 lb driver, NO options, and just the trailer!

    You also have your comments about perrysbury wrong. very wrong!

    The fact remains as noted my many tow ratings mean squat in the real world! hence why some of us have our popcorn and beer out! Tow ratings are also not safety numbers, only a warranty/performance rating. All your insurance carrier will care about, is are you under legal ratings. Even your door tag numbers are NOT real rating numbers the LEO's on the side of the road worry about. Now look at those comments, and it is really time to get out the popcorn and beer!

    Buy yourself a dually or the SW 3500, and be done with it. Your kid will be over 50 lbs, probably about 60 in a year, 70 the following.....add some air per say to your figures, and real world, the truck is probably limited to 8-8500 lbs in 5w form. At least you do not have a family of 6 that comes in at 1200-1300 lbs.........One needed a SW 3500 to pull a 6500 lbs ball mount and even then, I could not stay under the door placard gvwr, but I was under axel wt ratings, and the paid for gvw of the truck.

    Marty
  • Why do people complain about a truck they haven't bought? If you have to have a 3/4, put airbags on and buy a trailer that won't exceed your tire or axle ratings.

    Trucks are so much better today than even 10 years ago, let alone 20 or more. There were some big 5ers in the early 80s pulled by trucks noone today whould want. In nearly 14yrs here, I've never seen a first hand or maybe even second that someone was sued or fined after an accident. This for being overweight on a private vehical.

    Mark
  • Good Job. I think you are a little conservative on your calculations but certainly a correct way to do it. It really is amazing how many people think that the manufactures tow rating is a "I can tow anything, as long as it is less than the tow rating" rating. You certainly could tow a bumper mount flat bed loaded with bricks wieghing 15,000# with a pin wieght of 12% but no way you are going to tow a 15,000# FW with a pin wieght of 20% or higher with a 3/4 ton truck.
  • This is the exact reason I sold my 3/4 ton and bought a 1 ton SRW. If I could do it over, I would have skipped the 3/4 ton altogether.
  • It is a 3/4 ton truck. What did you expect? An MDT capabilities to match the D/M/A.
  • At least you noticed this today! I remember a few others back when the DA GM's came out, put 15K ob 5w's behind there new 01 and 02 trucks, and had issues with bottoming out etc. But they were under gcwr! so that is all that counted per say.

    As you are noting, trailer tow capacities are a bogus number, at the end of the day, it is PAYLOAD, PAYLOAD and PAYLOAD that will decide the max trailer you can tow!

    So if you want to tow something bigger than 9K lbs, get a ball mount where you only have 10-15% HW, or go to a bigger chassis truck! pretty plain and simple.

    Yes, you did the math VERY CORRECT! I've been showing the same thing for over 10 yrs on here!

    Marty
  • You forgot the 250 pounds 5er receiver too! 2500 pounds is decent for 3/4 ton diesel. Don't look at Rams!

    For $600-1000, I highly recommend people just get the SRW 1-ton for 800-1500 pounds more payload over 3/4 ton. Many people just overload their 3/4 on and then get air bags.
  • TACO: You're right.

    Perrysburg: I'm fairly sure that what you mean by your comment is that XX is going to come on here and say blah blah those specs are garbage. I tow my monster 5th wheel with an older truck, with lower ratings. Everything is fine. Tow the 15k'er with the 3/4.

    I value my belongings. If I get into an accident, I don't want my insurance to kick me to the curb. I don't want to risk getting fined. I don't want my family or anyone else on the road to get hurt. I don't want to pay someone for the rest of my life because of improper towing.

    To the naysayers, to those that say these numbers are baloney, how can you argue against them successfully in a court of law? If a lawyer ran the numbers, they would have you by the balls.

    By the way, I'm military and move every 2-4 years. Home is NH. Just moved to CA from FL. So, I drive ALOT. 5'er is the only way for me. I'm not pulling a travel trailer for 3000mi, even with a WD hitch.
  • For the dually truck you added family gear and fuel twice.

    I am betting you actually have less than 2500 starting out on the duramax truck. That is probably what is on the chevy website I bet if you look at the sticker in the door frame it is less or if you took it to a scale it is less.