New lawsuit against Cummins/FCA

It seems Dodge even acknowledges that RAM is one of their vehicles. It's on their website, on a page titled "All Dodge Vehicles".

I still don't get the attempt to disassociate from the Dodge name. It's a good name in automotive history. I don't think anyone would disagree with the statement "Without Dodge, there would be no RAM truck".

Calling them a Dodge RAM is only paying tribute to their lineage, and in my opinion which I freely admit ain't worth squat, it's also calling them what they are.

:):)

Cummins12V98 wrote:

gmcsmoke wrote:
I thought it was just RAM, not dodge RAM.

Starting in 2013 it's "RAM".

oh, then this class action must be against a different truck company since peppered throughout their filed complaint they reference these dodge RAMs.

Based on class counsel’s investigation, in consultation with
automobile emissions experts, the specific dispute in the FCA Litigation is in fact
only part of a larger defect (referred to herein as the “Defect”). Model year 2013–
2017 Dodge Ram trucks (2500s and 3500s) with a Cummins 6.7-liter diesel engine
(the “Vehicles”) have an SCR system that breaks down, emits emissions in excess
of federal and California standards, and has a diesel particulate filter (DPF) that

Cummins12V98,

Yes that's possible because:

1998 was the year the 2500 and 3500 Dodge trucks production was being moved to Mexico so it was a split year. After the move was complete, ALL 2500 and 3500 Dodge and Ram truck production build has been in Mexico along with all hemi engines that were put in them were/are made in Mexico. Do your research and you will know.

For a lot of people it will always be a Dodge truck regardless of what Fiat calls it. I do remember Plymouth and Mercury trucks in Canada. Frivolous lawsuits are filed all the time, means nothing until the trial is over.

ShinerBock,

Not dissing you!

My post was just to add some detail facts and info to your post. So many people and even owners of trucks with the last couple decades of diesel engines in them don't have a clue as to the real facts about the diesel engines or the trucks they are in as to who actually designed them, manufactures them, assembles them, and where.

What the name on the vehicle emblem is alone does not tell it's origination, corporate ownership or location or the actual history of its model signification or who owns and manufactures it and where. It's a marketing moniker identification. Silverado doesn't say General Motors as it's a vehicle model line unlike "Chevrolet" which is a division of GM. GMC which stands for "General Motors Corporation" however does say GM.

Ram doesn't say FCA or Chrysler Corp either. However, Dodge does say Chrysler Corp as Dodge is/was a seperate vehicle line brand division of Chrysler Corp/FCA like Chevrolet is a division of GM. Dodge was the name on the emblem identifier words/wording on/for the trucks for many decades and what identified them. Dakota small pickups of the past did not say Dodge or Chrysler or FCA as it was a model line moniker. Which however, is now "FCA" owned at present and will likely change again when?, given the history? History most often is a predictor of the future!

A Ford truck in modern history is simply an "F" series vehicle no matter the vehicle size capability and has been for eons and not likely to change anytime soon. Attemps to offer other truck significations were short lived mostly due to low sales volume in North America or not presently in production.

Sure, anyone can seek out a "maverick" example but they are so insignificant in reality. Perhaps this is beyond some readers comprehension?

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Dannyabear1 wrote:

gmcsmoke wrote:
I thought it was just RAM, not dodge RAM.

What does the small plaque in the center of the daSHBORAD HAVE ON IT? dODGE OR rAM?

My Dad's 12 and my 11 had DODGE on the center. That was the ONLY place it said DODGE as it was required by law to be labeled somewhere on the truck. 13 and newer are legally known as RAM.

The only place I can find on my 2005 that has Dodge is the owners manual. Everywhere else either says Ram or Heavy Duty.

" simply purchased from Cummins, shipped down to Mexico and installed in the 2500"

NOT always the case. Both of my 98's were built is St Louis.

Dannyabear1 wrote:

gmcsmoke wrote:
I thought it was just RAM, not dodge RAM.

What does the small plaque in the center of the daSHBORAD HAVE ON IT? dODGE OR rAM?

My Dad's 12 and my 11 had DODGE on the center. That was the ONLY place it said DODGE as it was required by law to be labeled somewhere on the truck. 13 and newer are legally known as RAM.

gmcsmoke wrote:
I thought it was just RAM, not dodge RAM.

Starting in 2013 it's "RAM".

ShinerBock wrote:

travelnutz wrote:
ShinerBock,

Ahhh!

The 6.6 Duramax engine is NOT an Isuzu engine.........

Not sure what that was all about.

Agreeing with you but with three times more paragraphs.