New record !

Huntindog wrote:
This is from the ford 6.0 class action lawsuit...
Speaks volumes about the culture of Ford, at that time. And explains the 6.0s place in diesel history

"We unfortunately exceeded our own cylinder pressure specs in normally
performing engines. We don't want to have our cylinder pressure specs published
or documented by having them subpoenaed or we might face a class action.
When we have a defect, we have to honor our warranty.... I recommend we all
delete these emails.11
25."

Whomever the author of that email is should be jailed.

That's fraud.

This is from the ford 6.0 class action lawsuit...
Speaks volumes about the culture of Ford, at that time. And explains the 6.0s place in diesel history

"We unfortunately exceeded our own cylinder pressure specs in normally
performing engines. We don't want to have our cylinder pressure specs published
or documented by having them subpoenaed or we might face a class action.
When we have a defect, we have to honor our warranty.... I recommend we all
delete these emails.11
25."

itguy08 wrote:

45Ricochet wrote:
I believe fighting a big corporation would cost a bit more than $13k :W

Really? Cause in the warranty book of Ric's 2011 (available at the Ford Fleet site for recent Fords), you can use the BBB Auto Line program which is arbitration for free. If it is as cut and dry as Ric claims I'd head there first. BBB Auto Line

I'd encourage those with legitimate complaints to use this service.

"My" experience with the BBB is this: They have about as much teeth as a giant anteater. :B

Too much Kumbaya and lets all just hug and every thing will work out stuff for me.............. Also it took forrrrrrrrrrrrrrreverrrrrrr.

But in all fairness it was just one time and over 25 years ago.

Ricatic,

If you want a break from the topic of Ford HPFP failures, go over to the General RV forum and start one on WalMart camping. It's almost as entertaining :)

itguy08 wrote:

45Ricochet wrote:
I believe fighting a big corporation would cost a bit more than $13k :W

Really? Cause in the warranty book of Ric's 2011 (available at the Ford Fleet site for recent Fords), you can use the BBB Auto Line program which is arbitration for free. If it is as cut and dry as Ric claims I'd head there first. BBB Auto Line

I'd encourage those with legitimate complaints to use this service.

itguy08

You have missed or misunderstood the timeline of my HPFP Shameful Event which is understandable. When the truck first went down and the first dealer made two different repairs under the auspices of warranty, I still spilled the KoolAid. It was not until 3 weeks after the breakdown that the final decision to not warranty my truck came down from Ford World headquarters in Dearborn, Michigan.

Because Ford was adamant that water caused the failure, despite proof to the otherwise, my comprehensive insurance coverage stepped up, even though they believed Ford was in the wrong, and they paid the bill less the deductible, the cost of filters and the fuel. This placed the recovery into the insurance companies hands. The last I heard they had sent a bill to Ford...I do not know the outcome.

Before anyone leaps to the conclusion that the insurance company was misled...they were not. The adjuster and I looked at all the parts and discussed the claim. He made the decision to cover the failure. At that time the problem was relatively new. After Ford and GM were dragged into the NHTSA investigation, getting this repair covered became much more difficult.

Huntindog posted earlier in the thread. He is a GM guy who adamantly refused to believe that GM was having similar CP4 failure rates as Ford. The NHTSA report laid that position to rest. The "Dog" was the first person I remember purchasing Mechanical Breakdown Insurance from Geico. We now know the actuaries at Geico are onto the Ford warranty scam concerning Bosch CP4 HPFP failures. The insurance premium for identical MBI coverage for a Ford 6.7 diesel is almost 300% higher than for a GM twin using the same pump...and we all know the insurance companies cover their rear ends...

Just the facts...I do not make them up...I just report them

Regards

45Ricochet wrote:
I believe fighting a big corporation would cost a bit more than $13k :W

Really? Cause in the warranty book of Ric's 2011 (available at the Ford Fleet site for recent Fords), you can use the BBB Auto Line program which is arbitration for free. If it is as cut and dry as Ric claims I'd head there first. BBB Auto Line

I'd encourage those with legitimate complaints to use this service.

jerem0621 wrote:


X3- why buy something so fragile?

Jerem for me that is the question. Is the current FOrd PSD really that fragile?
Is the owner a few residual drops away from disaster?
With or without warranty I don't think a late model 60K diesel truck should be that fragile. Apparently Ford Does:h

If you know Rick's PSD history he was a ardent defender of the 6.0 PSD and strongly believed the 6.0 was a worthwhile power plant. Once upon a time he drank as much blue Kool Aid as anyone in the building. He stood by his 6.0 until he moved on to the 6.7.
That's when he got a little too much water in his Kool Aid and things went downhill fast.
$12K or so later he abandoned the blue oval and returned to his bow tie roots.
Now he's devoted to telling his story to anyone who will listen. honestly I can't blame him.

NC Hauler wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

sky_free wrote:
You guys have pretty much convinced me to never buy a diesel truck.

But it is so much fun!

X2

X3- why buy something so fragile?

Love my V10 and the next truck will probably have a 3 valve V10.

45Ricochet wrote:
I believe fighting a big corporation would cost a bit more than $13k :W

It would take something like THIS to get back maybe a quarter of the fix it price.

WOW, I actually read most of that...sad state of affairs, but Ford is STILL number 1 in truck sales, so "forgive and forget" evidently....guess it was good that I never could strike a good enough deal with ford to where I was able to own one of their trucks.. Guess each manufacturer at one time or another has had their own "albatross"...guess I've been fortunate enough to never own one...no matter who manufactured it...Timing is everything:B

I believe fighting a big corporation would cost a bit more than $13k :W

It would take something like THIS to get back maybe a quarter of the fix it price.