New to the TT world

ChrispyjCSLT22 wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:
Imagine doing normal things like cooking, sleeping, showering, using the bathroom, etc...in each (imagine being stuck inside for a couple rainy days). Then let the layout you like better decide.

I wouldn't count on quality to be much different. All the appliances and fixtures tend to be universal among all the brands.

Also, not a chance would I count on the solar/battery package running the air/con. Sure it may start it up but it won't run it long enough to be worth the hassle. Solar/battery systems are for dry camping when you have minimal electrical needs. Air/Con is easily the highest power demand of any RV system.

My plan is to not run the AC overnight while sleeping but run it during the evening some and turning it off before going to sleep.. I also have a CPAP and its hard enough for me to sleep in the heat..

I do plan to RV park camp with full hookups, boondock and dry camp..

I just want the ability to run the ac some as running it overnight is unrealistic... I do appreciate your input

As I have pointed out, running the A/C for even 1 hr is "unrealistic".

The A/C in 1 hr will use almost HALF of the included battery capacity which leaves very little battery capacity for anything else..

You have to figure in that your fridge, water heater, furnace, lights along with stereo and LP detector are all connected to and draw from that battery even when they are "turned off"..

Fridge and water heater will have 12V control boards, those control boards USE 12V in order for the device to operate.

You "need" lighting", right?

Guess where that comes from?

Yep, the 12V battery..

Want to charge your phone, laptop, tablet or even run a TV?

Yep, that same 12V battery..

Want to take a shower, wash dishes, use the toilet?

Yep, the water pressure is supplied via a 12V pump which gets it's power from that same 12V battery.

So, it has solar panels on it, big deal, 570W is a drop in the bucket to handle running the A/C and charge the batteries and you get pretty much a max of 5 peak charging hrs every day provided you have no shade, you have no clouds and lots of sun during those peak hrs. Not to mention now you must park out in the open without the benefit of trees to shade your RV.

You have been sold a "bill of goods" in believing that 400Ahr of battery is going to run your A/C for very long..

Perhaps a 1/2 hr-1hr per day provided you have full sunlight every day and you use absolutely nothing in your RV.. But even then I suspect if you do you will run out of battery very quickly.

Can it be done?

Sure, but you would need more battery capacity and more solar capacity..

Make life easier on yourself, buy a 2200W gen for the A/C, then you have less cost and less limitations for that use.

ChrispyjCSLT22 wrote:

PButler96 wrote:

Skibane wrote:
Both models are made by Forest River (mediocre build quality on a good day), and both models have slideouts (which add a lot of weight and mechanical complexity).

A few other brands to consider with better reputations for build quality:

Bigfoot
Casita
Escape
Scamp

If you're feeling spendy, also take a look at Oliver.

Spendy indeed. The OP said ready to buy in the next 6 months. I doubt any of those brands listed will be found new just sitting on a dealers lot and if they are you can bet it will be for top dollar. I would bet there are production waiting lists at all of them for ordering. They're few and far between on the used market also, and they're always priced out of sight. So unless the OP has lots of time and money, or is extremely lucky, I'd say those brands are not on his radar, nor are the prices.

They are not..

just fyi, here are the 2 I'm considering.. My budget is 35K or below.... I have a bike rally in Oct and want to sell my 2020 harley afterwards and that will give me atleast 4-6K to put down on a TT.

This one here is already equipped with the power pkg to run the AC off of the batts.

https://www.ganderrv.com/rvdetails/new-travel-trailer-rvs/2022-forest-river-flagstaff-e-pro-19fds-rear-bath-40k-CMO1863852


This one here I got a build and quote price of 39080.00

Your Price is $39080
New No Boundaries (NOBO) NB19.5 Travel Trailer
Equipment:
19 Series Package X
Curt Beast Mode Independent Suspension
No Boundaries Beast Mode
Interior Decor, Aspen Frost
J-Cradle Kayak Holder
Unplugged Package
Regards,
Your Friends At Couch's RV Nation

https://www.couchsrvnation.com/forest-river/build-and-price/193/1684

Listen to what folks have been telling you. The cheap solar **** that the manufacturers include is not going to run the AC for any length of time that is even remotely beneficial. It's all junk and nothing more than bling to sucker in people. If your ordering from the factory do not get any of it and save the money for a real system, but get ready to spend a few grand for it to do what you want it to do.

ChrispyjCSLT22 wrote:
My plan is to not run the AC overnight while sleeping but run it during the evening some and turning it off before going to sleep.. I also have a CPAP and its hard enough for me to sleep in the heat..

I do plan to RV park camp with full hookups, boondock and dry camp..

I just want the ability to run the ac some as running it overnight is unrealistic... I do appreciate your input

It can probably do the CPAP.

RV are so poorly insulated, the idea of cooling the rig off before going to sleep on a hot night...expect within 15-30min after turning it off, the interior will be hot.

If you want air/con when boondocking, get an appropriately sized inverter generator.

valhalla360 wrote:
Imagine doing normal things like cooking, sleeping, showering, using the bathroom, etc...in each (imagine being stuck inside for a couple rainy days). Then let the layout you like better decide.

I wouldn't count on quality to be much different. All the appliances and fixtures tend to be universal among all the brands.

Also, not a chance would I count on the solar/battery package running the air/con. Sure it may start it up but it won't run it long enough to be worth the hassle. Solar/battery systems are for dry camping when you have minimal electrical needs. Air/Con is easily the highest power demand of any RV system.

My plan is to not run the AC overnight while sleeping but run it during the evening some and turning it off before going to sleep.. I also have a CPAP and its hard enough for me to sleep in the heat..

I do plan to RV park camp with full hookups, boondock and dry camp..

I just want the ability to run the ac some as running it overnight is unrealistic... I do appreciate your input

Gdetrailer wrote:

ChrispyjCSLT22 wrote:

Lwiddis wrote:
“ I'd like to have a TT that can run the AC off of the batteries and these 2 have optional paower pkgs that will allow this.”

So would most of us! Are you willing to spend big time on solar and batteries with your limited budget? And I mean big time.

just fyi, here are the 2 I'm considering.. My budget is 35K or below.... I have a bike rally in Oct and want to sell my 2020 harley afterwards and that will give me atleast 4-6K to put down on a TT.

This one here is already equipped with the power pkg to run the AC off of the batts.

https://www.ganderrv.com/rvdetails/new-travel-trailer-rvs/2022-forest-river-flagstaff-e-pro-19fds-rear-bath-40k-CMO1863852


This one here I got a build and quote price of 39080.00

Your Price is $39080
New No Boundaries (NOBO) NB19.5 Travel Trailer
Equipment:
19 Series Package X
Curt Beast Mode Independent Suspension
No Boundaries Beast Mode
Interior Decor, Aspen Frost
J-Cradle Kayak Holder
Unplugged Package
Regards,
Your Friends At Couch's RV Nation

https://www.couchsrvnation.com/forest-river/build-and-price/193/1684

Your going to be sadly disapointed in that "power package" if you think your going to run a A/C unit for any length of time..

HERE is full specs on that..

"

400AH Single Mastervolt Mli Lithium-Ion Battery w/ Safety Disconnect
3kW (3000 Watts)/160A Inverter/Charger Mastervolt Combimaster
3 -190W Solar Panels (570 Watts) to Maintain/Charge Battery Bank
11,000 BTU Coleman Mach Soft Start A/C
2 Smart Remotes - Offering Monitoring and Control for the System
Side Solar Plug In Standard for Portable Solar Option"

400Ahr battery and 570W worth of solar isn't going to cut it for running a A/C unit "down south"..

13.5K BTU A/C draws about 13A at 120V, roughly translates to 130A at 12V, run it for 1hr it will consume about 130Ahr of battery. That gives you about 3hrs max run time just for the A/C and no other items like lights, fridge or other 12V items..

Down south, that is good for pulling over and eating your meals road side in comfort while traveling.. Not so much for running A/C overnight or through the day..

My plan is to not run the AC overnight while sleeping but run it during the evening some and turning it off before going to sleep.. I also have a CPAP and its hard enough for me to sleep in the heat..

I do plan to RV park camp with full hookups, boondock and dry camp..

I just want the ability to run the ac some as running it overnight is unrealistic... I do appreciate your input

Imagine doing normal things like cooking, sleeping, showering, using the bathroom, etc...in each (imagine being stuck inside for a couple rainy days). Then let the layout you like better decide.

I wouldn't count on quality to be much different. All the appliances and fixtures tend to be universal among all the brands.

Also, not a chance would I count on the solar/battery package running the air/con. Sure it may start it up but it won't run it long enough to be worth the hassle. Solar/battery systems are for dry camping when you have minimal electrical needs. Air/Con is easily the highest power demand of any RV system.

ChrispyjCSLT22 wrote:

Lwiddis wrote:
“ I'd like to have a TT that can run the AC off of the batteries and these 2 have optional paower pkgs that will allow this.”

So would most of us! Are you willing to spend big time on solar and batteries with your limited budget? And I mean big time.

just fyi, here are the 2 I'm considering.. My budget is 35K or below.... I have a bike rally in Oct and want to sell my 2020 harley afterwards and that will give me atleast 4-6K to put down on a TT.

This one here is already equipped with the power pkg to run the AC off of the batts.

https://www.ganderrv.com/rvdetails/new-travel-trailer-rvs/2022-forest-river-flagstaff-e-pro-19fds-rear-bath-40k-CMO1863852


This one here I got a build and quote price of 39080.00

Your Price is $39080
New No Boundaries (NOBO) NB19.5 Travel Trailer
Equipment:
19 Series Package X
Curt Beast Mode Independent Suspension
No Boundaries Beast Mode
Interior Decor, Aspen Frost
J-Cradle Kayak Holder
Unplugged Package
Regards,
Your Friends At Couch's RV Nation

https://www.couchsrvnation.com/forest-river/build-and-price/193/1684

Your going to be sadly disapointed in that "power package" if you think your going to run a A/C unit for any length of time..

HERE is full specs on that..

"

400AH Single Mastervolt Mli Lithium-Ion Battery w/ Safety Disconnect
3kW (3000 Watts)/160A Inverter/Charger Mastervolt Combimaster
3 -190W Solar Panels (570 Watts) to Maintain/Charge Battery Bank
11,000 BTU Coleman Mach Soft Start A/C
2 Smart Remotes - Offering Monitoring and Control for the System
Side Solar Plug In Standard for Portable Solar Option"

400Ahr battery and 570W worth of solar isn't going to cut it for running a A/C unit "down south"..

13.5K BTU A/C draws about 13A at 120V, roughly translates to 130A at 12V, run it for 1hr it will consume about 130Ahr of battery. That gives you about 3hrs max run time just for the A/C and no other items like lights, fridge or other 12V items..

Down south, that is good for pulling over and eating your meals road side in comfort while traveling.. Not so much for running A/C overnight or through the day..

Lwiddis wrote:
“ I'd like to have a TT that can run the AC off of the batteries and these 2 have optional paower pkgs that will allow this.”

So would most of us! Are you willing to spend big time on solar and batteries with your limited budget? And I mean big time.

just fyi, here are the 2 I'm considering.. My budget is 35K or below.... I have a bike rally in Oct and want to sell my 2020 harley afterwards and that will give me atleast 4-6K to put down on a TT.

This one here is already equipped with the power pkg to run the AC off of the batts.

https://www.ganderrv.com/rvdetails/new-travel-trailer-rvs/2022-forest-river-flagstaff-e-pro-19fds-rear-bath-40k-CMO1863852


This one here I got a build and quote price of 39080.00

Your Price is $39080
New No Boundaries (NOBO) NB19.5 Travel Trailer
Equipment:
19 Series Package X
Curt Beast Mode Independent Suspension
No Boundaries Beast Mode
Interior Decor, Aspen Frost
J-Cradle Kayak Holder
Unplugged Package
Regards,
Your Friends At Couch's RV Nation

https://www.couchsrvnation.com/forest-river/build-and-price/193/1684

Skibane wrote:
^Most of the brands I listed aren't sold at dealerships - they're ordered directly from the factory.

No dealership means no dealership mark-up.

Typically, prices are clearly posted - there is no haggling over them.

With the exception of Oliver, their prices are in line with many stick-and-staple-built RVs - and their resale values are considerably higher.

Some of them are just too small

PButler96 wrote:

Skibane wrote:
Both models are made by Forest River (mediocre build quality on a good day), and both models have slideouts (which add a lot of weight and mechanical complexity).

A few other brands to consider with better reputations for build quality:

Bigfoot
Casita
Escape
Scamp

If you're feeling spendy, also take a look at Oliver.

Spendy indeed. The OP said ready to buy in the next 6 months. I doubt any of those brands listed will be found new just sitting on a dealers lot and if they are you can bet it will be for top dollar. I would bet there are production waiting lists at all of them for ordering. They're few and far between on the used market also, and they're always priced out of sight. So unless the OP has lots of time and money, or is extremely lucky, I'd say those brands are not on his radar, nor are the prices.

They are not..

just fyi, here are the 2 I'm considering.. My budget is 35K or below.... I have a bike rally in Oct and want to sell my 2020 harley afterwards and that will give me atleast 4-6K to put down on a TT.

This one here is already equipped with the power pkg to run the AC off of the batts.

https://www.ganderrv.com/rvdetails/new-travel-trailer-rvs/2022-forest-river-flagstaff-e-pro-19fds-rear-bath-40k-CMO1863852


This one here I got a build and quote price of 39080.00

Your Price is $39080
New No Boundaries (NOBO) NB19.5 Travel Trailer
Equipment:
19 Series Package X
Curt Beast Mode Independent Suspension
No Boundaries Beast Mode
Interior Decor, Aspen Frost
J-Cradle Kayak Holder
Unplugged Package
Regards,
Your Friends At Couch's RV Nation

https://www.couchsrvnation.com/forest-river/build-and-price/193/1684