Newer D/A owners, please chime in.

My local Chevy dealer has 2015 LTZ DRW 4x4 with Duramax for $55000, figure you can probably get her for $50000. I'd snatch it up if I didn't already have e one.

That is pathetic. They deserved to lose that sale.

I am sure it is regional. I have seen Denalis at other stores (4 hours away) going for 10-11K under sticker. First go around they only knocked 2K off. Second go around they did knock 5K off. As I was walking out he through another grand at me. I said they have a long ways to go and he told me that diesels sell well there so they don't need to "lose money" on it.

But they had signs all over for autoshow savings and presidents day savings

I went online and their price "for everyone" was the same price he used as a last attempt when I was walking out. Pathetic.

interesting what they wanted and how they wouldn't deal. Our 2015.5 GMC sierra denali crew cab with upgraded wheels, sunroof, duramax, extra cost paint (the blue in the picture) tow mirrors and a bunch of other options, ended up costing us 54K without much haggling at all. List was about 67K. Don't think the 2016 are much more. At 62K, well, dealer sure doesn't seem to interested IMHO.

Well I checked them out again today. My biggest gripes are still the same. They weren't willing to deal much. For the price point I would expect rear heated seats and keyless entry/start. Low DEF tank. Really noticeable without running boards. Partially with them. This was their "offroad" model and I would say it was roughly 8-10" off the ground.

Engine was a rocket and quiet. Hit it from a roll and it scooted nicely. Trans seemed nice, but hard to tell with a short drive. Firm shifts. I like how the rear seats flip up to flat floor like my Tundra. Other makers have storage bins that take up too much room.

Wheels- Gawdy. I like plain jane or black.

Tow mirrors are pretty slick. I like them.

Biggest issue driving was the console armrest seemed to constantly be in the way when turning right using my right hand. Also the difference in spacing between the gas and brake seemed too much. Very hard to keep my heel in one place and just rotate my foot between gas and brake. It improved with seat placement and steering wheel extended, but still not very driver friendly in stop and go for long periods of time I imagine.

Steering was responsive and almost too light. Ram almost too heavy. Ford is just right. This was a 2500 and major major difference over the 3500 I test drove the first time. This truck wasn't bad. Pretty smooth and I imagine with a small load in the back would be very enjoyable.

Fit and finish I thought was sub par for the almost $70K sticker price. Fog light surrounds did not sit flush on bumper on either side. I checked a couple trucks and all were like that. The perforated grill (I wanted a Denali) looked like there was still plastic shards on the back side from the form. Not a very clean cut. Just little odds and ends while I waited for the salesman to bring the keys back for 10 minutes.

At the end of the day, had they met the price of the ram (around $55k for similarly equipped ram) I may had pulled the trigger. But, they thought they had gold and would not go under $63K. Offered one last $62K offer as I was walking out the door.

Not a bad truck, just not for me. I think it is priced a little high for what it is. Ford and Ram both offer equal trucks for far less money.


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B.O. Plenty wrote:
i have a 2015 Chev. Things I wouldn't get again. Navigation is almost worthless waste of money. Very little on screen info, not usually the shortest route. Expensive to update.My $100.00 Tom-Tom is 10 times better. Cooled front seats don't do much, The camera that's supposed to help keep you in your lane..not much good on a dually that's very wide to start with..Def is not an issue to refill, don't like the tank hanging down. Seats are okay but not even close to the seats in my previous Ram Laramie. Dash layout and controls are much more difficult to use than the Ram. Engine is very quiet. Power steering is a little stiff at low speeds. Transmission is well, just fabulous. Very smooth, well timed shifts, quiet. Overall I like it.

B.O.

Nav units are hit and miss. there are some things I like better on the Garmin some things I like better on the GM Nav. Twice we've hit major traffic road closures due to accidents in places we weren't familiar with. In both cases a quick button push for onstar and the onstar advisor in the first case downloaded a mpa routed us around it, knowing we were pulling a 35ft trailer. In the second case, interstate had been closed for over two hours, virtually no way around it. backup close to 45 miles dead stop. Onstar advisor said they just had info that the road was now open and said, call back in 30 minutes for update on traffic. So we stayed at the truck stop had another coffee, gave a call and they said, backup was down to about 10 miles and going down fast. Hit the road, and yup, Onstar was correct.

GM nav seems to be better on outlining turns better than my Garmin RV760 in some cases. For example if there are multiple turn possibilities in a short distance or time it will say "take the second right" then take this right turn while the garmin waits till almost the turn and say TURN.

But my garmin seems to give better lane views.

Cooled seats in ours are nice, but we don't live where it gets real hot. However, I'd say the 2015 heated seats aren't as nice as our 2004 heated seats. longer to warm up and not full side bolster heating.

our son had a dodge 2500 work truck, now a f250 work truck and his personal truck is our old 2004.5 duramax. His comments, each one has controls in different spots, going between takes getting used to.

His work trucks are pretty basic state gov't purchased trucks, so comparing seats, comfort etc. really isn't any apple and apples comparison. amazing how many things gov't fleet purchases can specify you wont' find on a dealers lot. like no carpet, only rubber floor mats, which in all actuality isn't that bad. There are times I wish I could get that.

i have a 2015 Chev. Things I wouldn't get again. Navigation is almost worthless waste of money. Very little on screen info, not usually the shortest route. Expensive to update.My $100.00 Tom-Tom is 10 times better. Cooled front seats don't do much, The camera that's supposed to help keep you in your lane..not much good on a dually that's very wide to start with..Def is not an issue to refill, don't like the tank hanging down. Seats are okay but not even close to the seats in my previous Ram Laramie. Dash layout and controls are much more difficult to use than the Ram. Engine is very quiet. Power steering is a little stiff at low speeds. Transmission is well, just fabulous. Very smooth, well timed shifts, quiet. Overall I like it.

B.O.

gmcsmoke wrote:


Really??? you're going to use to completely different videos to prove your point?

1) the gentleman above that posted pictures said he got 22mpg highway as well which jives with the video I posted.

2) you are comparing tests from 2011? You should compare trucks that have current regulations and current power output, not 5 year old trucks that had previous tier regulations.

2015 Ram beats 2015 Ford while towing by 2mpg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX0zLZHSoNw Can't seem to find one for duramax.