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Dave H M wrote:

srt20 wrote:
IMO, FOB leaves vehicle, it shuts off in 5 or 10 mins. If you need you vehicle to run to heat it up on winter morning, use FOB from in house to start. And it shuts down after 10-15 mins.

Seems simple to me. Am I overlooking something?

Btw a simple software update can take care of this.

you are over looking something for mne. I leave the keyless Toyo Highlander running when on the road and have the air conditioning on when stopping for lunch or maybe running into walley's for something. The car gets locked up with the bayonet lock key that detaches/pulls out of the key fob. I want to keep my keyless system and the lawyer can throw my 25 centavos in the river. :h

And there should be a law against leaving vehicles running unattended for EVERYONE !!!! Its unnecessary pollution, and a waste of fuel , but then some do not care.

srt20 wrote:
IMO, FOB leaves vehicle, it shuts off in 5 or 10 mins. If you need you vehicle to run to heat it up on winter morning, use FOB from in house to start. And it shuts down after 10-15 mins.

Seems simple to me. Am I overlooking something?

Btw a simple software update can take care of this.

you are over looking something for mne. I leave the keyless Toyo Highlander running when on the road and have the air conditioning on when stopping for lunch or maybe running into walley's for something. The car gets locked up with the bayonet lock key that detaches/pulls out of the key fob. I want to keep my keyless system and the lawyer can throw my 25 centavos in the river. :h

Karnac the Magnificent says: "Attorneys collect millions in fees, the named party who started the class action suit collect millions, the auto manufacturers do not admit any wrongdoing and the owners of the all the supposed problem cars will get a coupon good for $25.00 off the purchase price of a new car from the same manufacturer."

ktmrfs wrote:

jfkmk wrote:
I don't think the car manufacturers were trying to conceal anything, I think they just couldn't conceive of anyone being that dumb. They've been proven wrong!

Let's face it, if we're that concerned about a senior citizen not hearing the car running and leave it on as a previous poster suggests, they should probably bad giving up their license.

One issue I've noticed is that vehicles I've had with regular keys give all kinds of chimes if you open the door with the key in the ignition or ignition running.

My dads lexus with the keyless go does NOTHING if you open the door with engine running, no chime, no buzz, nothing to clue you in that the engine is still running and you left the key in the ignition and the car is still running. IMHO a big oversite and an easy fix to lots of the issues.

and I'll bet most of us are used to car that chimes with the door open and engine running.

My new 2015 F-150 honks twice at me if I walk away from with it still running and I have the key fob in hand! My wife's 2015 Expedition also honks twice!

2003silverado wrote:
At least with keyed ignition vehicles most people need the same key ring to get back in their house when they return home. I don't understand why the vehicles don't shut off when the fob gets over 10 feet from the vehicle. If you need to leave it running then you leave the fob in the vehicle just like you would leave the keys in the ignition on other vehicles.

Wouldn't work for me as I keep my house keys on a separate key ring.

jfkmk wrote:

smkettner wrote:


BTW electric vehicles with the fob also stay running but no CO issues.

Why would an electric vehicle run when you're not driving anywhere?:h

It's not necessarily running but it's "ON". A/C and accessories are ON as well as the computer that runs everything. My Prius boots up much like a computer when I push the power button. It will run the a/c and accessories for quite a while on a full charge before the gas engine starts, charges and shuts back off to run on battery again.

jfkmk wrote:

smkettner wrote:
BTW electric vehicles with the fob also stay running but no CO issues.

Why would an electric vehicle run when you're not driving anywhere?:h

Same reason any car continues to run when you step out.
That is the topic at hand.

Wife's CMax keyless system honks the horn twice if you get out.

Cars have to continue running if you get out of the car with the FOB in your pocket... what would happen if the system lost communication while driving? Can you spell accident and/or lawsuit?

Personal responsibility, why don't these people have CO detectors in their house?

smkettner wrote:


BTW electric vehicles with the fob also stay running but no CO issues.

Why would an electric vehicle run when you're not driving anywhere?:h

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
Gee if you start your vehicle in an enclosed garage and you can die???? Good to know.

It is not about starting the vehicle but rather about exiting the vehicle, including taking the key with you, and the vehicle continues to run.

I agree that when the key is removed from the vehicle it should shut down within about two minutes.

BTW electric vehicles with the fob also stay running but no CO issues.