RAM 6.4 Ike Gauntlet

I didn't think they timed the run down the hill, just up. Going down they just count brake applications, when the truck hits 60 they brake and slow it down to 50 then release the brakes and let the truck do its thing till it hits 60 again.

In the videos going up you can see them start the clock as they pass a sign on the entrance ramp.

The Ram fished the run @ 13.20 minutes if you guys watch the video going down the hill the Ram looks to be running it at 53 MPH and the Chevy is running it a 60 MPH. Now we don't get to see the speed very often so who knows but that could be where the time difference comes in.

So since Nuts loves to play Mr. Engineer tell us how two trucks one having 410 HP & 429 of TQ can get beat by a truck with 360 HP and 380 of TQ with both running 4.10 gears. You may also note that the Chevy lost 1600 RPM's every time it up shifted!!! They even noted that the Chevy could barely hold 30 MPH near the end of the run! And yet it beat the truck that was running 40 MPH at the end?

Lets hear it Mr. Engineer or any others that can explain this!

transamz9,

DUH! Having spent so many trips at the proving grounds etc in my nearly 40 years of pickups, vans, and SUV hands on engineering, Mr. transamz9 doesn't appear to have a clue as to what actually propels a load or any load up an incline and the facts of doing so. Simply stated, 20,000 lbs being pulled up a 6% grade for instance takes exactly the same delivered twisting force to the drive wheels contact with the road surface to do so no matter which vehicle is doing the pulling and we are talking a vehicle here.

Doesn't matter if the load ascending is being pushed or pulled, it's the exact same force required to do so and it is the only thing that is moving the load, period! Want to ascend faster? Apply more force and the load will move at a higher velocity! A fact you certainly can not dispute!

Either the required delivered force is there or it's not! Or, do you really think you know more than the very long established, proven, and published Laws of Physics? Good luck with proving it wrong!!!

I suppose it was ok considering the load it had. That 5,500 plus RPM can't be good for the long term, though. I think I'll stick with the Cummins! :B

DaveF-250SD wrote:


Eisenhower pass is on I-70 west of Denver. Reaches a height of over 11,100 feet at the top.

Yep, I just drove it last fall in a rental GMC Terrain.

GREAT drive!

travelnutz wrote:
DBH_MI,

Shame on you for trying to educate the Ram truck cheerleaders and water carriers. Might be better to just leave them in their lost minds and blubbering wonder world!

It's the total load you are moving up the grade whether all on a trailer or some on the truck and below 53.7 MPH the wind resistance is not much of a factor at all but only educated people seem to know this. 3 minutes is a huge difference in times!

Come on, dude.

I have owned and towed with all of the Big Three, and right now, they all three make great trucks.

Yes, I currently own a RAM, but my last truck was a Chevy, and my next truck could be any of the Big Three.

Truck brand wars in 2017 are a big waste of time, IMO.

travelnutz wrote:
DBH_MI,

Shame on you for trying to educate the Ram truck cheerleaders and water carriers. Might be better to just leave them in their lost minds and blubbering wonder world!

It's the total load you are moving up the grade whether all on a trailer or some on the truck and below 53.7 MPH the wind resistance is not much of a factor at all but only educated people seem to know this. 3 minutes is a huge difference in times!

Sorry bud but until you have pulled a variety of heavy loads on the same trailer you just won't understand. I'm not saying this just because I drive Rams either. It can make a big difference by just moving a load around on a trailer. When hauling heavy equipment, 6" forward and aft can mean the difference in what gear you will have to pull a hill. I know science and math says otherwise but an engineer can draw you pushing a chain but there are going to be hurdles you will have to jump through in the real world to make it happen.

DBH_MI,

Shame on you for trying to educate the Ram truck cheerleaders and water carriers. Might be better to just leave them in their lost minds and blubbering wonder world!

It's the total load you are moving up the grade whether all on a trailer or some on the truck and below 53.7 MPH the wind resistance is not much of a factor at all but only educated people seem to know this. 3 minutes is a huge difference in times!

Under 40 MPH, aerodynamic drag is pretty minor when it comes to an incline like the Ike Gauntlet.

SouthpawHD wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:
That was my point, the Ram had a better showing time wise but not by much. A naturally aspirated engine is not going to do will pull that grade period. My beef is with the fact that they have yet to run a 6.2 f250. All three are going to run the same and without fully disclosing the specs of each truck this is nothing more then a waste of data!

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Huh? The videos I watched showed the GM beating the Ram by 3 minutes.

With completely different trailer weights and aerodynamics. Not even close to an actual comparable towing load.