Ram Eco-Diesel vs F150 2.7 TT - Davis Dam

Hybridhunter wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

Fast Mopar wrote:
Yawn. The Ford has 85 horsepower more than the Ram. Of course the Ford will win.

Yep, 35% more HP for the EB.

But less torque and fewer gears and 10% less torque.
HP beats torque, even with a lesser gearbox. And it was not even close!

APT wrote:
No surprises from me. If you arbitrarily limit engine speed to 3000rpm the Ram diesel would be quicker and use less fuel. That's how many truck owners drive. But WOT that 2.7L looks like a great combo. I can't wait to see EPA ratings and real world owners!

If you arbitrarily cap frivolous engine option spending at $2K, you wouldn't be able to buy one.

larry barnhart wrote:
I think there is a different driving style for different drivers so different vehicles seems to be a good thing. Some like to race and some like to enjoy the drive.

chevman

You like to smell the roses when you pass? You don't like having power in reserve when climbing? You'd rather run the ED at 100%, when you could instead run the 2.7 at 80%?

News flash, the ED makes 240hp at 3600rpm, the 2.7 makes almost the exact same at that rpm, slightly more actually. So racing or not, when climbing a hill, real world conditions, you will be working the ED 100% not so with the 2.7L

Newsflash, I'm never ever near that 240HP peak figure while towing. Another Newsflash, I drive the speed limit, I'm not racing to the top of anything. Your arguement is based solely on peak numbers. Only an idiot runs their motor while trailering at peak numbers. I'm lucky if I do use peak torque, at around 1700-2400 rpms, but I'll never run a diesel anywhere near peak horsepower.

Here's your sign.... anytime you want to see work get done, with heavy loads... ships, freighliners, trains, whatever, where there is heavy weight involved, invariably, the drive plant chosen is a turbo diesel. End of subject matter. It's never a race, when work needs to be done, it's what kind of power your motor makes under the peak curve that matters, and how far away you can stay from being at the peak curve while doing the required work, leaving a margin of safety for the longevity of the motor.