Re test 2018 F150 Diesel takes on Ike Gauntlet
This time with the production calibration. Enjoy... Link
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[ quote=Grit dog]^ Bingo!
And there IS a market for them. Yes the newer 1/2 ton V8s and high strung 6 and now forthcoming 4 bangers get pretty decent unloaded mileage, but the baby diesels get about 10 mpg better across the board. At least the ecodiesel does, idk about the 3.0 ford but would expect similar numbers.
That's huge when you put some miles on a truck. Like my work truck, 5.3 Silvy. Right now I'm packing on close to 1000mkles a week, mostly highway. Yeah it does great at about 17 mpg. But 27 mpg would be really sweet!
And the little diesels will always be carped on here, because that's what old men in the coffee shop do! The rest of the world might like them!
The cost thing is a dumb argument, especially coming from people with 6 figures plus worth of rving hardware in their sigs. Those folks should speak into their bathroom mirror rather on line!
A $5k upcharge, over say an average of 10 year vehicle ownership is what? Less than $40 a month? I'd save more fuel $ than that in a week right now with a 10mpg boost. And resale, unless they turn out to be duds, will be higher than the eq gasser as a whole.
Grit, you make it sound like small diesels are an obvious choice when you drive a lot of miles. I think you're a bit optimistic about 10mpg across the board with all things being equal. A baby powerstroke vs 2.7 EcoBoost wont be a huge difference, certainly not 10mpg. I know I'm not getting 10 better in the HD that I drive.
When you add everything up I don't see you saving money fuel wise. I drive a diesel and its maybe 25 percent better than gas but I don't think I'm saving money in the long run.
There are people who drive HD trucks on these boards who swear to never drive diesels because of maintenance and emissions equipment even though the diesel has far superior power. The baby diesel doesn't even have that advantage, in this case its less. So is the "hassle" of owning a baby diesel is worth it for a slight if any fuel savings and less power?
The poster who mentioned the cafe, that makes sense. I'll buy that one.
Dan
And there IS a market for them. Yes the newer 1/2 ton V8s and high strung 6 and now forthcoming 4 bangers get pretty decent unloaded mileage, but the baby diesels get about 10 mpg better across the board. At least the ecodiesel does, idk about the 3.0 ford but would expect similar numbers.
That's huge when you put some miles on a truck. Like my work truck, 5.3 Silvy. Right now I'm packing on close to 1000mkles a week, mostly highway. Yeah it does great at about 17 mpg. But 27 mpg would be really sweet!
And the little diesels will always be carped on here, because that's what old men in the coffee shop do! The rest of the world might like them!
The cost thing is a dumb argument, especially coming from people with 6 figures plus worth of rving hardware in their sigs. Those folks should speak into their bathroom mirror rather on line!
A $5k upcharge, over say an average of 10 year vehicle ownership is what? Less than $40 a month? I'd save more fuel $ than that in a week right now with a 10mpg boost. And resale, unless they turn out to be duds, will be higher than the eq gasser as a whole.
Grit, you make it sound like small diesels are an obvious choice when you drive a lot of miles. I think you're a bit optimistic about 10mpg across the board with all things being equal. A baby powerstroke vs 2.7 EcoBoost wont be a huge difference, certainly not 10mpg. I know I'm not getting 10 better in the HD that I drive.
When you add everything up I don't see you saving money fuel wise. I drive a diesel and its maybe 25 percent better than gas but I don't think I'm saving money in the long run.
There are people who drive HD trucks on these boards who swear to never drive diesels because of maintenance and emissions equipment even though the diesel has far superior power. The baby diesel doesn't even have that advantage, in this case its less. So is the "hassle" of owning a baby diesel is worth it for a slight if any fuel savings and less power?
The poster who mentioned the cafe, that makes sense. I'll buy that one.
Dan
