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Vol_Bengal
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May 29, 2018

Replacement for 2002 Excursion 7.3L

Hello all - here is my situation...
I've been towing campers since I was 18 years old. I towed the family camper back then. I pulled with an older Ford Econoline e350 w/ the 460 motor in it, I've driven the old (I mean my grandpa's old) F250 from years ago with the 460. I've pulled with a Suburban and I'm currently towing with a 2002 Ford Excursion 7.3. I've had it 14 years and it has been a fantastic vehicle for us. I've done the F250 spring upgrade to it, tuner, 4" turbo back exhaust, big cold air intake, etc., etc., etc. Two years ago I purchased a 2017 Mesa Ridge 310BHS that I fell in love with. It is 9265... dry. Loaded down, full complement of family in, etc. and all the different stuff I believe I'm pushing closer to 12,000... tongue weight is about 1265. The Excursion with the upgrades has been up to the task. However, the braking and such isn't on par with the F-series super duty's and I've been leery of it since I made the purchase quite honestly. I pulled the camper with my father's F350 7.3 dually Friday to the campground and fell in love...

Long and short of it - I don't need all the seating space of the Excursion any longer so I'm going to make a change to a 250/2500 or 350/3500 of some nature. I'm not married to gas or diesel simply because we tow the camper a grand total of maybe 1500 miles a year... maybe. This would be an extra vehicle not driven everyday.

Thoughts on 3/4 or 1 ton at 12,000 pounds? I intend in the 3-4 year window upgrade into a 5th wheel... likely 15-16,000 point 5th wheel. Ford 6.2L vs. 6.0 vs older 7.3 vs. 6.7 vs. Chevy Duramax vs. Dodge Cummins vs. Dodge 5.7L Hemi... I'm on the fence as to brand and fuel type... looking for help!!!
  • They will all do it. Go for the one you like and roll on. gas vs Diesel is a personal preference at the weights you are talking.

    Thanks!

    Jeremiah
  • Since you are used to the diesel - get a newer one. Any of the 2011+ HD gas trucks will tow your TT with the 4.xx axle ratio. The 6-spd transmissions really help keep the engines in their powerband, but that will be much higher than you are used to. Expect a lot of time in the 3000-4000rpm range. Again, a 2011+ diesel will tow great. Lots of power, better gearing, etc.

    Since you are planning a 5th wheel, get the dually. SRW diesel crew cab has about 3500 pounds of payload. Dually is closer to 5000.

    You said you do not pack light.
  • Sorry, I disagree with meagain. 16K pound fiver translates to 3500 pound pin weight. Add 3500 to an already 3000 to 3500 empty rear axle weight comes out to around 7000 pounds. Unless you get a brand new truck with 18 or 20 inch wheels you will be way overloaded on most factory LT tires. Just not a smart idea oven if you do find a truck with tires capable of handling that much weight your likely not going to be real happy doing it. Get a dually or look for less fiver with a 3500 SRW.
  • "likely 15-16,000 point 5th wheel"

    That is SRW 350/3500 territory! Some will argue dually, however the 2013+ RAM, 2016+ GM or 2017+ Ford with their new frames will handle that weight fine with a SRW. Diesel for sure.

    Click link in my sig line to see the 16K 5th wheel I tow with a 2015 RAM 3500 4x4 CC SB with Aisin tranny an 3.42 gears.

    Chris